Why hoplites/hypaspists and phalangites have the same size of shields in units cards?

[Antiochus]

Why hoplites/hypaspists and phalangites have the same size of shields in units cards?

Shields are the same size in units cards, not in the game.
Phalangites and hoplites are the same size shields.

Lusted said they are "foot companions" (phalangites) and "shield bearers" (hypaspists). In Rally Point we seen the same size as Macdon vs skirmish gameplay and battle of Nile. So we know that thet are phalangites and hypaspists. The shields are the exact dimensions.

The problem is that it is confusing when playing battlefield. The units are similar, and the player can make a mistake, because the Macedonian phalanx and traditional Greek phalanx are the same size shields.

There are examples:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwWrDtkJdTs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kg42DC4EpMY

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

[Gelston]

I also hate how there are all these 6000 foot human beings walking around the campaign map.

[smoke]

How terrible. Game is utterly, utterly broken.

[Meraun]

yes and the building are hunderds of Foot's high compared to the landscape! ! and the Ships!! too Biigg !!!! as big as a city. sooo unrealistic! Damn you CA!

:-)

[DogSoldierSPQR]

You can only really tell the difference because of the length of the spears in those unit cards and there even is not much of a difference there as well at a glance especially when you have so many other units as well. It won't be as confusing when we get our hands on it, mate. It may look confusing to us now, but CA have said that it won't feel complicated when we play it. Have faith, dude.

Positives far outweigh the negatives. I personally can't name many negatives about Rome 2 so far. I can't even think of one right now, tbh. Clearly the best TW so far.

[Karnil Vark Khaitan]

the boy who cried wolf.....

[SacredBoltgun]

CRY HAVOC! AND LET SLIP THE DOGS OF WAR!!!

No its absolutely fine a glace on the card is see the length of the pointy stick and know its a hoplite or pikeman unit. See no problem here

[Smiling Hetairoi]

CRY HAVOC! AND LET SLIP THE DOGS OF WAR!!!

No its absolutely fine a glace on the card is see the length of the pointy stick and know its a hoplite or pikeman unit. See no problem here

Is it not: Cry havoc and let slip the hogs of war?

[Karnil Vark Khaitan]

Is it not: Cry havoc and let slip the hogs of war?

or any other farm animal!

[TheRomanRuler]

Its already very hard to distinguish units from each others with these new unit cards, that is why i hope it will be fixed.
Or if we get units card/UI dlc, i would be fine with it.

[sgthunter]

Its already very hard to distinguish units from each others with these new unit cards, that is why i hope it will be fixed.
Or if we get units card/UI dlc, i would be fine with it.

I miss the days when a person would say "Or if we get units card/UI mods, i would be fine with it."

But congratulations are in order for the capitalist strategists in charge of changing the gaming culture.

[Rittsy]

You'll get used to the new unit cards. If there's a big problem, we can assume they will be fixed in a patch/update since CA are trying to move more toward online play.

[Woodrow Skillson]

I have defended CA a lot on here, but the unit cards are pretty bad, and the shields being the same means that pretty much the only way to tell spear units apart is the spear length, which is damn near identical.

You just know the unit cards are some high level guy's pet project that he loves and no one could convince him to let it go.

Oh well, I'm sure I will get used to it fast.

[Sup With That?]

Wasn't he happy about the game a little while ago, after the Phalanx video.

I could have sworn he was happy.

...he was happy guys. I swear.

[Travisfv]

I think the unit cards are fine. It'll just take some getting used to what means what, but when we do get it it'll snap into place like always.

Now who's with me in saying they'd like the option to move unit cards in an army? I hated having artillery in the beginning, middle, and end of my stack. I like similar units to sit next to each other. Not a major issue or game breaking, but just makes it cleaner when seeing what exactly you have in your army. I hated finding a unit of archers mixed next to my heavy infantry. I know on the battlefield it doesn't matter, but for the sake of organization, it would be nice to be able to rearrange unit cards.

[Jungle Rhino]

I like the unit cards - they are stylised to portray key information very simply i.e.

Does it have a shield?
What weapon does it have?
Does it have a horse?
Is it an elephant?

Realisitcally those are the key attributes you need to know and you pick those up pretty fast from the unit cards. Also it may be a coincidence but all of the missle units I have seen so far are looking up at the sky - while the melee units are either looking down or straight ahead. Could be a coincidence but I think this may be on purpose?

[Pour Some Sugar On Me]

Why hoplites/hypaspists and phalangites have the same size of shields in units cards?

There are examples:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwWrDtkJdTs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kg42DC4EpMY

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

There is still a phalanx unit we haven't seen yet, perhaps they'll have different shields?

I'd prefer some different shield sizes as well, but is not a game breaker for me.

[Tenerife_Boy]

That phalanx formation looks uncompleted. ...soldiers need to be clooooser

[Antiochus]

None of you did not understand my post.

I wrote that the shields are the same size in units cards, not in the game.

Phalangites and hoplites are the same size shields.

Lusted said they are "foot companions" (phalangites) and "shield bearers" (hypaspists). In Rally Point we seen the same size as Macdon vs skirmish gameplay and battle of Nile. So we know that thet are phalangites and hypaspists. The shields are the exact dimensions.

The problem is that it is confusing when playing battlefield. The units are similar, and the player can make a mistake, because the Macedonian phalanx and traditional Greek phalanx are the same size shields.

[Emperor Domitianus]

None of you did not understand my post.

I wrote that the shields are the same size in units cards, not in the game.

Phalangites and hoplites are the same size shields.

Lusted said they are "foot companions" (phalangites) and "shield bearers" (hypaspists). In Rally Point we seen the same size as Macdon vs skirmish gameplay and battle of Nile. So we know that thet are phalangites and hypaspists. The shields are the exact dimensions.

The problem is that it is confusing when playing battlefield. The units are similar, and the player can make a mistake, because the Macedonian phalanx and traditional Greek phalanx are the same size shields.

When you get used to the game, you will not confuse them. It's not an issue.