Orthodox and Muslims?....

[Kdar]

Orthodox and Muslims?....

So those going to be just "regular" religion..

or they will have some missions like Catholics?.. Probably not exactly.. but Will they get "plus" for conquering other religions (cites, etc..)?..

[The Mongol]

I thought other religions would get missions from a council of nobles or something, if that's catholic only too I would be dissapointed. Pope missions are going to be fun but I hope the other religions get something else to do.

[God-Emperor of Mankind]

Yeah, I wonder if the others will get the council of nobles as well :hmmm: .
They haven't mentioned anything about it.
I do hope they get it as well.
Also jihads are formed differently then Crusades.
Crusades you can attack anyone that has a different religion but jihads can only be formed to reclaim muslim cities and will called by your own priest instead of the pope.
I wonder what the ortodox will have.
Will they have a crusade that will be called by your own priest or aren't they able to form a crusade :hmmm:

[Azai Nagamasa]

I would assume that the Council of Nobles is for every faction, because, well, nobles, barons, and feudal lord existed in practically every nation in that period, some to a greater or lesser extent.

CA hasn't said anything about the Orthodox crusading... I think they won't because of a couple of things:

1. Constantinople was sacked by the Crusaders, kind of 'turning them off' of the idea of Crusading.
2. The Russian states (in this game represented as Russia) and the Byzantines weren't exactly "pals". Russia did try to attack Constantinople. Though the Catholic countries fought against each other, they actually worked with each other in the Crusades and had some friendly relations unlike the two Orthodox factions in the game.

Eh, could've been alot worse for the Orthodox. They could have gotten the shaft like the Pagans in BI.

Crusades you can attack anyone that has a different religion but jihads can only be formed to reclaim muslim cities and will called by your own priest instead of the pope.

Or against cities with a significant Muslim population, not just ones you lost and need to reclaim.

[God-Emperor of Mankind]

Or against cities with a significant Muslim population, not just ones you lost and need to reclaim.

Well that is reclaiming I suppose

[Ryder65]

While Constantinople was sacked during the Fourth Crusade, it was the Byzantine Empire's call for aid against the Turks that sparked the First. The pope, in fact, called for the "soldiers of Christ" to help the Byzantines in the east after the Battle of Manzikert. In my opinion, while the Orthodox factions do not have to deal with the pope like the Catholics do, it would only make sense if they were given the option of joining crusades (if they weren't directed against Byzantium, that is).

[crazyj]

Well that is reclaiming I suppose

No, thats actually slow demographic infiltration and conversion, followed by a war for formal territory once a plurality is achieved. Like a slow inevitable tide puntuated by quick bursts of conquering. Watch out Europe.





Orthodox is the most screwed, becuz they won't have Crusades or jihads, just the nobles, whereas the others at least get the nobles plus some holy wars to call/participate in.

[The Lord Of Dance]

I like the fact that you can Jihad provinces that have substantial Muslim populations, that gives the Jihad a good tactic. It makes it almost on par with a crusade. :tooth:

I've heard in one or two of the crusades Byzantine troops traveled with the Crusaders to recalim the city of Antioch and Nicaea.

[Tzar]

Orthodox should have something like Jihads. To have some kind of crusade but only to recalim their lands

[The Mongol]

If they don't get anything I wonder if it can be modded in...

Hmm, we'll just have to see! I'm tearing my hair out in anticipation for MTW2.

[Kanfoosh]

And why exactly should they?

[Lusted]

I even installed MTW1 again just so that I can play some medieval game

I can't even do that, i threw out MTW1 and VI the other day. I want this game now!!!!!!!

[God-Emperor of Mankind]

I can't even do that, i threw out MTW1 and VI the other day. I want this game now!!!!!!!

Well you aren't missing anything.
Playing it made me realise how good RTW is.
Only thing that MTW1 has that is better is the diplomacy where the AI is more reliable.
Other then that
Not to mention it crashes alot because the game is so old.

[Darkarbiter]

Well it would make sense that you could send your professional troops along for catholic crusades as orthodox (why not?) but you wouldnt get armies that march around the map eating up zeal and getting rather phat like in mtw1 if u play the orthodox i think.

[Kdar]

Ok.. Question on Catholic.. and crusades..

If you have your pope elected.... can you tell him when to start crusade? or some like that?.. basically control him somehow.

[Tzar]

Ok.. Question on Catholic.. and crusades..

If you have your pope elected.... can you tell him when to start crusade? or some like that?.. basically control him somehow.

I think NO, you can't controle Pope or tell him what to do. When your pope is elected he can prolong from punishing you if you attack another catholic faction or something like that.

[John I Tzimisces]

Why lusted, why??

And why should the orthodox get crusades or jihads, when they did Neither of any kind to begin with?

Also, yeah, the crusades were sparked by the Byzantine Emperors call for troops...which they expected would be 300 mercenary knights they would have direct control of, not a veritable horde.

[therussian]

Why lusted, why??

And why should the orthodox get crusades or jihads, when they did Neither of any kind to begin with?

Also, yeah, the crusades were sparked by the Byzantine Emperors call for troops...which they expected would be 300 mercenary knights they would have direct control of, not a veritable horde.

Not in a hundred years did Alexius Comnenus know what was going to hit his Empire

[Tzar]

Why lusted, why??

And why should the orthodox get crusades or jihads, when they did Neither of any kind to begin with?

Also, yeah, the crusades were sparked by the Byzantine Emperors call for troops...which they expected would be 300 mercenary knights they would have direct control of, not a veritable horde.

well this is just a game, make it fun to play

[Miraj]

I personally think there should only be two religions:

"Christianity" for the Catholics and "Heathens" for all the other factions. And thats its. Plus Jihads should not be allowed in the game, if CA lets the player go on Jihads then the terrorists win.

Also. All the non-catholic factions should be unified into one faction called "Losers" and the new slots should be used to add in the following factions:

North Ireland
South Ireland
Northern Wales
Southern Wales
North Scotland
South Scotland
..and the HRE should be split into 27 different German Factions.

Plus Mecca should be added into the game and it should be scripted that the final crusade is called on Mecca.

Also, the "Heathen" religions should not be able to convert people since nobody is so stupid to convert to them.


If the CA does not do the above, the terrorist win.