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    Default A possible idea for the next close-up demonstration if there will be one.

    I'd like to start off by giving Jack and everyone in CA a big thank you for showing off the Phalanx to us close up. It helped put a lot of fears away and re-assured people that one of the most iconic formations in this era is working correctly and will be reliable. Thanks, guys.

    I figured since Jack went in really close and showed us a demonstration of how a specific formation worked and with it being received so positively, that it would be a good idea to maybe throw a few ideas at Jack as to what other formations we might want to see close up as well. There was always one thing that I had seen that always stayed on my mind and assured me that CA have made Rome 2 an amazing game. It was when I saw a Roman Cohort fighting in formation against an Egyptian archer unit.

    Not exactly the best match-up I know but it was the way the Romans were fighting. It wasn't just hack and slash. There was visible thrusting from the Romans and everything was so organised and professional. I think it would be great if Jack could maybe do a video like this for next week.

    This personally interests me a great deal as I almost always play as the Romans. I line my guys up in a very long straight line with reserves in the back, and it always ends up with the main body of the enemy crashing into my lines. So it's a big deal when it comes to the animations the Romans will be using when they are fighting in formation and in defence. I have put the link below and the time of where it occurs. It's not all that visible but you can make things out. Replay it a few times. It only lasts a few seconds.

    It would be good to see how much cohesion is lost when the unit is flanked while being engaged in front etc.

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    At the end of the Rally Point video they said that the next time we see the game it will be on our computers, so I would say it's highly unlikely that we get another close up demonstration like said Rally Point. Maybe a launch trailer or some-such thing closer to release, but I doubt anything more in depth...




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    Default Re: A possible idea for the next close-up demonstration if there will be one.

    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeL View Post
    At the end of the Rally Point video they said that the next time we see the game it will be on our computers, so I would say it's highly unlikely that we get another close up demonstration like said Rally Point. Maybe a launch trailer or some-such thing closer to release, but I doubt anything more in depth...
    They meant the next Rally Point episode

    Quote Originally Posted by Dominian View Post
    I loved seing those Phalanx soldiers getting crushed by the riders from behind. The impact was brutal, the whole company shifted. Now I would like to see some of those things with elephants. But they said that it is the last rally point. Release is so close I can taste it... *drool*
    Yeah, I really enjoyed seeing that. The entire unit was thrown into disarray. At least now we get cavalry charges that will be super effective against specific units like Phalanx troops etc.
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    I loved seing those Phalanx soldiers getting crushed by the riders from behind. The impact was brutal, the whole company shifted. Now I would like to see some of those things with elephants. But they said that it is the last rally point. Release is so close I can taste it... *drool*
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    I didnt see that rally point because of my isp restriction on Youtube.com but as i heard many thing about that many questions comes to my mind:

    I loved seing those Phalanx soldiers getting crushed by the riders from behind. The impact was brutal, the whole company shifted.
    1)What type of phalanxes was fought in that trailer and what type of cavalry was that unit who flanked the phalanxes?

    Yeah, I really enjoyed seeing that. The entire unit was thrown into disarray. At least now we get cavalry charges that will be super effective against specific units like Phalanx troops etc.
    2)With this statement should we be wait for a massive damage given to phalanx type soldiers who was flanked and charged with Cataphracts.
    My mean is will be the charge bonuses for Cataphracts different from the other cavalry types?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ariamanesh View Post
    I didnt see that rally point because of my isp restriction on Youtube.com but as i heard many thing about that many questions comes to my mind:



    1)What type of phalanxes was fought in that trailer and what type of cavalry was that unit who flanked the phalanxes?
    The main Phalanx that was being attacked was a Levy Pikemen unit. From what Faction it came from was unspecified. I could not make out what kind of cavalry charged it but it wasn't a cataphract. It was Greek-looking (I think).

    Quote Originally Posted by Ariamanesh View Post
    2)With this statement should we be wait for a massive damage given to phalanx type soldiers who was flanked and charged with Cataphracts.
    My mean is will be the charge bonuses for Cataphracts different from the other cavalry types?
    To be honest, if a cavalry unit like the one that was shown could destroy a Pike unit from behind with one charge, I think a Cataphract unit will be very deadly. The Cataphracts will have the deadliest charge bonus, as is the case anyway.
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    Default Re: A possible idea for the next close-up demonstration if there will be one.

    since we have havent really seen much from the iceni, i would really like to see a 10 min long battle between Rome and the Iceni, with lots of zooming in so that we can see all the sexy animations
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    Quote Originally Posted by kamikazee786 View Post
    since we have havent really seen much from the iceni, i would really like to see a 10 min long battle between Rome and the Iceni, with lots of zooming in so that we can see all the sexy animations
    That would be amazing haha.
    The blue on the Iceni looks very cool. Yeah, it would be great seeing thousands of Iceni warriors crashing against Roman shields and seeing the Romans thrust their Gladius into the Iceni lot. However, I think CA would portray the Iceni in a more victorious manner haha

    Quote Originally Posted by Archilles View Post
    I think it was sparta (same colors and helmets) against macedons (same colors)
    I really couldn't make out who they were. I will look into it some more sometime. With the more realistic look of units in Rome 2, it is pretty hard to make out what units these are and who they are from sometimes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kamikazee786 View Post
    since we have havent really seen much from the iceni, i would really like to see a 10 min long battle between Rome and the Iceni, with lots of zooming in so that we can see all the sexy animations
    Great,but why not against a mighty cavalry army of Parthians?
    I think it could be far more better(despite the fact that we saw no gameplay footage of these two yet)
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    Default Re: A possible idea for the next close-up demonstration if there will be one.

    delete this please
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    Default Re: A possible idea for the next close-up demonstration if there will be one.

    I think it was sparta (same colors and helmets) against macedons (same colors)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archilles View Post
    I think it was sparta (same colors and helmets) against macedons (same colors)
    Man can i ask you something?
    This question always was one of my unanswered questions!
    Can Spartan hoplites beat a macedonian phalangist unit head on?
    And the second is about the quality of spartan phalangiests!
    Can they keep the macedonian tough guys at bay(despite the fact that the best phalangiests must be macedonian i think)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ariamanesh View Post
    Man can i ask you something?
    This question always was one of my unanswered questions!
    Can Spartan hoplites beat a macedonian phalangist unit head on?
    And the second is about the quality of spartan phalangiests!
    Can they keep the macedonian tough guys at bay(despite the fact that the best phalangiests must be macedonian i think)?

    We do not know the faction those phalangites belonged to. All we now is that one was an elite unit and the other a levy one. Also no gameplay of spartans has been shown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ariamanesh View Post
    Man can i ask you something?
    This question always was one of my unanswered questions!
    Can Spartan hoplites beat a macedonian phalangist unit head on?
    And the second is about the quality of spartan phalangiests!
    Can they keep the macedonian tough guys at bay(despite the fact that the best phalangiests must be macedonian i think)?
    The never fought on the battlefield against each other cause they are about 100 years or so apart in time... so you cant say... Its like samurai vs romans - who would win?!? No one knows
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    Quote Originally Posted by DogSoldierSPQR View Post
    I really couldn't make out who they were. I will look into it some more sometime. With the more realistic look of units in Rome 2, it is pretty hard to make out what units these are and who they are from sometimes.
    The levy phalanx is from colors - brown, other kind of brown and yellow - same colors than spartans...
    the other is black red and yellow - same colors than macedons!
    So from my sight they are macedons and spartans - dont think that there are some more factions fitting this colors
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    Honestly I know I need to wait til release to make it even more EPIC but I REALLY REALLY wanna see Romans take on one of the iberian tribes and really just wanna see what kinda units they field.

    I could live with seeing some Iceni vs ??? though as we haven't really seen any units by them yet besides the wiki page photo. Very mysterious
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    Default Re: A possible idea for the next close-up demonstration if there will be one.

    Iceni vs arverni would be the best i think... or parthia vs iceni

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    I thanked them for that aswell and we would need to see more of the possible roman formations now and in particular of Phalanxes a turn around of a phalanx unit in formation and with spears up, the speed of forming the phalanx etc.
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    Testudo please? Attack & defence versions

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    An Iceni disembark on a battle against Parthia!

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    Cataphracts, chariots, armored elephants, woad warriors-..mein gott!
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