Titanium - Bug Reports

[Deteriorate]

First of all, loving a lot of the new features of this alpha! However, I've reached turn 19 playing as Genoa and get a CTD - unspecified error - every time I try and end my turn. I've checked the long/detailed system log and can't find any problems so I'm not sure what's causing it. In my campaign I am sieging Milan, but I've tried breaking the siege to see if that's the problem and it still crashes. I've also tried disabling autosaving but that didn't work either. So maybe it's a bug, and maybe it's just me. I'm attaching my save if anyone has the time to try it and see if it is just me having the issue.

While I'm mentioning this, I would just like to through in 2 thoughts of mine on the mod. I've noticed that during a siege when the enemy decides to sally forth, if units get to close their towers still fire like crazy even if there are no troops within the walls which seems a bit weird (only a minor issue, and justifiable, just not my cup of tea). The second is the extremely long build times in settlements (which again is not really a problem so much as a preference). It would be cool if in later releases there was an option to select what build times are like because for the most part I remember them being half of what they are now in SS 6.4 which would be nice to see again. Otherwise, I really like the new map, music, and other features... I also have not experienced any battle CTDs which is a huge plus!

Could you upload your system.log.txt for us to look at?

[Reed019]

Ok, I attached a copy of the log in the zip file

[Deteriorate]

Did you save this system.log after the crash, before you restarted the game? As you may know the log will overwrite itself once you restart the game

[Reed019]

Yeah, this is the log from the crash. The few second delay between anything happening and the unspecified error in the log was me waiting in the game before clicking the end turn button to trigger the crash.

These are the last 2 entries in the log I posted:

13:23:39.880 [system.io] [info] exists: found mods/Titanium_Alpha/data/ui/units/milan/#Urban_Spear_Militia.tga (from: C:\Games\MTW2)
13:23:44.256 [system.rpt] [error] Medieval 2: Total War encountered an unspecified error and will now exit.

[Stilldead]

First of all, loving a lot of the new features of this alpha! However, I've reached turn 19 playing as Genoa and get a CTD - unspecified error - every time I try and end my turn. I've checked the long/detailed system log and can't find any problems so I'm not sure what's causing it. In my campaign I am sieging Milan, but I've tried breaking the siege to see if that's the problem and it still crashes. I've also tried disabling autosaving but that didn't work either. So maybe it's a bug, and maybe it's just me. I'm attaching my save if anyone has the time to try it and see if it is just me having the issue.

While I'm mentioning this, I would just like to through in 2 thoughts of mine on the mod. I've noticed that during a siege when the enemy decides to sally forth, if units get to close their towers still fire like crazy even if there are no troops within the walls which seems a bit weird (only a minor issue, and justifiable, just not my cup of tea). The second is the extremely long build times in settlements (which again is not really a problem so much as a preference). It would be cool if in later releases there was an option to select what build times are like because for the most part I remember them being half of what they are now in SS 6.4 which would be nice to see again. Otherwise, I really like the new map, music, and other features... I also have not experienced any battle CTDs which is a huge plus!

Exactly the same issue here while playing as Scotland. I am not however sieging anything it just started out of nowhere..

[Reed019]

Yeah, I realized that sieging didn't cause it when I broke the siege and still got it. If it is tied to the end of turn 19 then maybe it's an event or trigger; something that is specific to that turn end?

[dulinodessa]

So I am having a problem and cant figure it out. I get the campaign all set up and hit start in the faction selection screen and the game runs into a "unspecified error and will now exit". How do I fix this?

[Deteriorate]

Please upload your system.log.txt file found in your Titanium_Alpha folder

[dulinodessa]

Where do I find the system.log.txt file? I can't find that anywhere in the titanim_alpha folder

[Deteriorate]

It should be in Medieval II Total War / mods / Titanium_Alpha

If it isn't maybe you installed it incorrectly, have you tried reinstalling?

[dulinodessa]

Okay, so I figured it out. I did a clean instal putting my main M2TW file on my desktop outside of program files. After I did this, it is all working very well.

[gsthoed]

Critical bug and proposed fix, concerning the RLC sub-mod: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...1#post14419917

[Reed019]

Just got around to playing again and thanks gsthoed for that fix because that sub-mod was causing my CTD... However, I have a new one lol.

So this time I'm playing as Venice and I was in diplomacy with Sicily, trying to barter the purchase of Naples and Ancona, when there was a CTD. I had just clicked to confirm a deal and the game crashed immediately. Here is the last bit of my log if it helps; I'm assuming the cause is to do with something in the last 5 entries.

13:49:26.888 [system.io] [trace] pack open,packs/data_3.pack,data/ui/southern_european/portraits/portraits/young/princesses/001.tga,26540
13:49:26.888 [system.io] [info] open: found data/ui/southern_european/portraits/portraits/young/princesses/001.tga (from: packs/data_3.pack)
13:49:26.902 [system.io] [trace] pack close,,data/ui/southern_european/portraits/portraits/young/princesses/001.tga,,,-26540
13:49:26.903 [system.io] [trace] file open,,data/ui/southern_european/portraits/portraits/young/princesses/001.tga,,not found
13:49:26.903 [system.io] [trace] pack open,packs/data_3.pack,data/ui/southern_european/portraits/portraits/young/princesses/001.tga,26540
13:49:26.903 [system.io] [info] open: found data/ui/southern_european/portraits/portraits/young/princesses/001.tga (from: packs/data_3.pack)
13:49:26.903 [system.io] [trace] pack data(),,data/ui/southern_european/portraits/portraits/young/princesses/001.tga,,,26540
13:49:26.903 [system.io] [trace] pack close,,data/ui/southern_european/portraits/portraits/young/princesses/001.tga,,,-26540
13:49:41.250 [system.io] [info] exists: missing data/ui/southern_european/portraits/portraits/young/civilians/067_select.tga.dds
13:49:41.251 [system.io] [info] exists: missing data/ui/southern_european/portraits/portraits/young/civilians/067_select.tga
13:49:41.251 [system.io] [info] exists: missing mods/Titanium_Alpha/data/ui/southern_european/portraits/portraits/young/civilians/067_select.tga.dds
13:49:41.251 [system.io] [info] exists: missing mods/Titanium_Alpha/data/ui/southern_european/portraits/portraits/young/civilians/067_select.tga
13:49:41.251 [system.io] [trace] file open,,data/ui/southern_european/portraits/portraits/young/civilians/067.tga,,not found
13:49:41.251 [system.io] [trace] pack open,packs/data_3.pack,data/ui/southern_european/portraits/portraits/young/civilians/067.tga,26540
13:49:41.251 [system.io] [info] open: found data/ui/southern_european/portraits/portraits/young/civilians/067.tga (from: packs/data_3.pack)
13:49:41.251 [system.io] [trace] pack data(),,data/ui/southern_european/portraits/portraits/young/civilians/067.tga,,,26540
13:49:41.251 [system.io] [trace] pack close,,data/ui/southern_european/portraits/portraits/young/civilians/067.tga,,,-26540
13:49:41.252 [system.io] [info] exists: missing data/ui/southern_european/portraits/portraits/young/generals/169_select.tga.dds
13:49:41.252 [system.io] [info] exists: missing data/ui/southern_european/portraits/portraits/young/generals/169_select.tga
13:49:41.252 [system.io] [info] exists: missing mods/Titanium_Alpha/data/ui/southern_european/portraits/portraits/young/generals/169_select.tga.dds
13:49:41.252 [system.io] [info] exists: missing mods/Titanium_Alpha/data/ui/southern_european/portraits/portraits/young/generals/169_select.tga
13:49:41.252 [system.io] [trace] file open,,data/ui/southern_european/portraits/portraits/young/generals/169.tga,,not found
13:49:41.252 [system.io] [trace] pack open,packs/data_3.pack,data/ui/southern_european/portraits/portraits/young/generals/169.tga,26540
13:49:41.252 [system.io] [info] open: found data/ui/southern_european/portraits/portraits/young/generals/169.tga (from: packs/data_3.pack)
13:49:41.252 [system.io] [trace] pack data(),,data/ui/southern_european/portraits/portraits/young/generals/169.tga,,,26540
13:49:41.253 [system.io] [trace] pack close,,data/ui/southern_european/portraits/portraits/young/generals/169.tga,,,-26540
13:49:41.253 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <King_Employs_Diplomacy> fired
13:51:30.418 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0083_Demeanour> fired
13:51:30.422 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <triumphs_in_capture> fired
13:51:30.441 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <triumphs_in_capture> fired
13:51:30.502 [system.rpt] [error] Medieval 2: Total War encountered an unspecified error and will now exit.


EDIT: I tested multiple times and it only crashes if I try purchasing Naples, all other cities work fine, but for some reason buying Naples makes my game crash

[gsthoed]

I'll try to replicate this bug. Your log seems normal up to the last line. If you try to do the purchase with a princess, please repeat it with a diplomat and report back what you find.

[Used2BRoz]

Hmmm - seems to be something wrong inasmuchas the King gets a diplomacy trigger
but shouldn't the triumphs_in_capture should only fire after a successful siege ?
It affects VictorVirtue so shouldn't be associated with a diplomatic transfer.
(But why it only affects Naples I've no idea, unless there is someone special in Naples when it is transferred ?)

[gsthoed]

but shouldn't the triumphs_in_capture should only fire after a successful siege ?

Not necessarily. It fires with a GeneralCaptureSettlement event. When you sell/buy a settlement or when it rebels, a small army of the new owner is created inside the settlement, which fires that event. I agree with the argument that VictorVirtue should not be assosiated with these cases, but there is no worry here, because the newly created general is a captain, so he cannot acquire traits.

[gsthoed]

I managed to purchase venetian Bari with sicilian Naples without any issues. However, during testing, I've encountered a similar CTD. It is in Kwarezm's turn, there is a spy mission that took place and, after this, there is a trade agreement. Sometimes the CTD was happening before the trade agreement. This is the log report:

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17:33:02.123 [game.script.exec] [trace] exec <set_counter> at line 780 in ../../GAMES/Titanium_Alpha/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt
17:33:02.123 [game.script.counter] [trace] counter <turn_fid> = 4
17:33:02.123 [game.script.exec] [trace] exec <set_counter> at line 781 in ../../GAMES/Titanium_Alpha/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt
17:33:02.123 [game.script.counter] [trace] counter <dead_diplomacy_kwarezm> = 0
17:33:02.124 [game.script.exec] [trace] exec <set_counter> at line 1120 in ../../GAMES/Titanium_Alpha/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt
17:33:02.124 [game.script.counter] [trace] counter <FK_special> = 0
17:33:02.124 [game.script.exec] [trace] exec <if> at line 1123 in ../../GAMES/Titanium_Alpha/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt
17:33:02.124 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <Untitled_trigger_2> fired
17:33:02.124 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <AI_general_boost> fired
17:33:02.124 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <AI_leader_boost> fired
17:33:02.124 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <Heir_Become_FactionLeader_Remove_Rank5> fired
17:33:02.124 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <Titled_trigger_1> fired
17:33:02.124 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <Titled_trigger_2> fired
17:33:02.125 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <AI_heir_boost> fired
17:33:02.125 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <Untitled_trigger_2> fired
17:33:02.125 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <Untitled_trigger_2> fired
17:33:02.126 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <Untitled_trigger_2> fired
17:33:02.126 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <Merchants_Exist_OnResource> fired
17:33:02.126 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <Untitled_trigger_2> fired
17:33:02.126 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <Untitled_trigger_2> fired
17:33:02.127 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <Untitled_trigger_2> fired
17:33:02.127 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <Untitled_trigger_2> fired
17:33:02.127 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <authority_addup_25> fired
17:33:02.127 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <Untitled_trigger_2> fired
17:33:02.128 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <AI_general_boost> fired
17:33:02.128 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <Untitled_trigger_2> fired
17:33:02.128 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <AI_general_boost> fired
17:33:02.129 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <Global_Settlement_Type_City> fired
17:33:02.129 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <Global_Tax_Level_High_And_Very_High> fired
17:33:02.129 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <Global_Loyalty_Level_Bonus> fired
17:33:02.129 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <Global_Training_Idle> fired
17:33:02.129 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <Global_Settlement_Has_Governor> fired
17:33:02.129 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <Global_Settlement_Type_City> fired
17:33:02.129 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <Global_Tax_Level_High_And_Very_High> fired
17:33:02.129 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <Global_Loyalty_Level_Bonus> fired
17:33:02.129 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <Global_Training_Idle> fired
17:33:02.129 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <Global_Settlement_Has_Governor> fired
17:33:02.130 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <Theologians_Governor_Attribute_Piety> fired
17:33:02.130 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <Global_Settlement_Type_City> fired
17:33:02.130 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <Global_Tax_Level_High_And_Very_High> fired
17:33:02.130 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <Global_Loyalty_Level_Bonus> fired
17:33:02.130 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <Global_Settlement_Has_Governor> fired
17:33:02.130 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <Global_Settlement_Type_Castle> fired
17:33:02.130 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <Global_Loyalty_Level_Bonus> fired
17:33:02.130 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <Global_Settlement_Has_Governor> fired
17:33:02.132 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0093_Update_Normal_Difficulty_AIcontrolled> fired
17:33:02.132 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0049_P_Normalise_Non_catholic> fired
17:33:02.132 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0083b_Update_Allies> fired
17:33:02.132 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0084b_Update_Enemies> fired
17:33:02.132 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0085_Update_Religion> fired
17:33:02.132 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0096_Increase_Global_Standing_New_Turn> fired
17:33:02.132 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0108_Update_Untrustworthy_Factions_Minor> fired
17:33:02.133 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <KwarezmAI> fired
17:33:02.133 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <KwarezmAlt> fired
17:33:02.262 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <Thiefs_Successful_Spying> fired
17:33:02.262 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <SpyCareerTest1> fired
17:33:02.262 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <SpyCareerTest2> fired
17:33:02.262 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <agents2> fired
17:33:02.276 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <King_Employs_Spies_Success_2> fired
17:33:02.276 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <spymaster_vnv_trigger> fired
17:33:02.276 [game.script.anc] [trace] Ancillary <spymaster> not added - chance 3, random 90
17:33:02.354 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0083_Demeanour> fired
17:33:02.355 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0079_F_Trade_Agreement> fired
17:33:02.355 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <Merchants_Trade_Agreement> fired
17:33:02.754 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0083_Demeanour> fired
17:33:02.755 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <King_Employs_Diplomacy> fired
17:33:02.838 [system.rpt] [error] Medieval 2: Total War encountered an unspecified error and will now exit.

I haven't phase such bug before; I have no idea what might cause this.
For a temporary fix, I'd try this (sorry, I have forgotten to try it myself): Open console before staring the negotation, type

disable_vnvs

and repeat after the negotation.

[Used2BRoz]

Might be an idea to check the system log to see what is supposed to happen after those lines, ie where diplomacy doesn't cause a problem ?
See what fires next.

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I've just had a battle CTD - although it was actually after the battle took place, complete with the victory screen with the numbers.
But before the screen clears.
I checked the system log and it happens after the BAI resets itself (all the counters)
but before anything else happens.

I'm thinking maybe a traits thing for the winning general ?
Or there was a problem caused by 3 enemy generals dying (from 2 different factions) on the same turn ?
(Epic defence of Cairo from a crusade vs French and Scottish armies. - actually quite easy )

Looks like I'll have to fight it again as the save game was just before the battle took place.

[gsthoed]

Might be an idea to check the system log to see what is supposed to happen after those lines, ie where diplomacy doesn't cause a problem ?
See what fires next.

It crashes to desktop; there is nothing after those lines.

I'm thinking maybe a traits thing for the winning general ?

It should have left a log entry about the corresponding trigger
If the crash is repeative and if you live in a country with time savings (or how that thing that at a point of the year the clocks must be turned one hour forward and the opposite at another night), it might be worth to try the daylight saving time fix. It is reported that helps in battle crashes in TATW, but I don't know if this could be true in this mod.

[Used2BRoz]

Sorry - too cryptic.
I was suggesting checking back in the system log to see if a similar event occurred which did not result in a CTD.

I've never encountered the daylight savings thing before.
Seems unlikely.

For example after the last line of the G5 BAI previous times these things fired :

17:44:11.735 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <Battle_General_Took_Deadly_Hits> fired
17:44:11.735 [system.io] [info] exists: missing mods/Titanium_Alpha/data/ui/generic/eventpics/vnv_traitchange.tga
17:44:11.736 [system.io] [info] exists: missing mods/Titanium_Alpha/data/ui/middle_eastern/eventpics/vnv_traitchange.tga
17:44:11.736 [system.io] [info] exists: missing data/ui/middle_eastern/eventpics/vnv_traitchange.tga.dds
17:44:11.736 [system.io] [info] exists: found data/ui/middle_eastern/eventpics/vnv_traitchange.tga (from: D:\Games)
-----------------------------
17:37:41.339 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <Battle_General_Took_Deadly_Hits> fired
17:37:41.339 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <triumphs_in_battle_clear> fired
17:37:41.339 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <Battle_General_Took_Hits> fired
17:37:41.339 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <battle5> fired
--------------------------------------------------------------------
17:36:10.945 [system.io] [info] exists: found mods/Titanium_Alpha/data/descr_quotes_lookup.txt (from: D:\Games)
17:36:10.946 [system.io] [trace] file open,,38B4E308,37330
17:36:10.946 [system.io] [info] open: found mods/Titanium_Alpha/data/text/quotes.txt.strings.bin (from: D:\Games)
17:36:10.947 [system.io] [info] exists: found mods/Titanium_Alpha/data/descr_transition_screen.txt (from: D:\Games)
17:36:10.947 [system.io] [trace] file open,,38B4E308,6584
17:36:10.947 [system.io] [info] open: found mods/Titanium_Alpha/data/descr_transition_screen.txt (from: D:\Games)
------------------------
17:15:26.124 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <Battle_General_Took_Deadly_Hits> fired
17:15:26.124 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <triumphs_in_battle_clear> fired
17:15:26.124 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <Battle_General_Took_Hits> fired
17:15:26.125 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <battle5> fired
----------------------
17:14:43.352 [system.io] [info] exists: found mods/Titanium_Alpha/data/descr_quotes_lookup.txt (from: D:\Games)
17:14:43.353 [system.io] [trace] file open,,3D477FC8,37330
17:14:43.353 [system.io] [info] open: found mods/Titanium_Alpha/data/text/quotes.txt.strings.bin (from: D:\Games)
17:14:43.354 [system.io] [info] exists: found mods/Titanium_Alpha/data/descr_transition_screen.txt (from: D:\Games)
17:14:43.355 [system.io] [trace] file open,,3D477FC8,6584
17:14:43.355 [system.io] [info] open: found mods/Titanium_Alpha/data/descr_transition_screen.txt (from: D:\Games)
--------------------------
17:00:52.127 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <Battle_General_Took_Deadly_Hits> fired
17:00:52.127 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <Battle_General_Took_Hits> fired
17:00:52.128 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <admiral1> fired
17:00:52.128 [system.io] [info] exists: missing mods/Titanium_Alpha/data/ui/generic/eventpics/vnv_traitchange.tga
17:00:52.128 [system.io] [info] exists: missing mods/Titanium_Alpha/data/ui/middle_eastern/eventpics/vnv_traitchange.tga
17:00:52.128 [system.io] [info] exists: missing data/ui/middle_eastern/eventpics/vnv_traitchange.tga.dds
17:00:52.128 [system.io] [info] exists: found data/ui/middle_eastern/eventpics/vnv_traitchange.tga (from: D:\Games)
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Which suggests that the next thing that should have happened when the game CTD'd was either a

17:00:52.127 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <Battle_General_Took_Deadly_Hits> fired
or
17:36:10.945 [system.io] [info] exists: found mods/Titanium_Alpha/data/descr_quotes_lookup.txt (from: D:\Games)