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    Quote Originally Posted by Poetic Pariah View Post
    After a small amount of encouragement, I decided to keep adding onto Spain and make them more accurate. Not completely accurate as that'd mean no red trim, but it's a start. Baby steps.

    As of now, I made the artillery and militia share the line infantry coloration. I also changed the German Militia cap (former kepi) to the Austrian field cap. It looks closer to the shako the Spanish had at the time so it's a better fit. I left the militia to keep the old kepi because there isn't a decent match for the Guardia Civil hat (the one that looks like balls, mind you). What I might do in the future is use the Serbian hat or the fez and use that as a mock forage cap. But, that's for later.

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    If you recall (or scroll up a little bit), you'll remember that the Guardia Real had gold uniforms with a nice metal breastplate. My bias, of course, with reasoning that goes "Why the hell not?" Well, that is now a distance memory from the past. Though I'd LOVE to keep them gold, Spain wasn't very original. Everyone did blue uniforms with red trim, why deviate from this path? It looks nice, sure, but if you see it enough it gets boring. So, with slight contempt, the new Guardia Real uniform for the Old Spanish Elite.

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    Using colors similar to the old Spanish uniform that I blatantly changed, I thought it would be appropriate while all other units had that green khaki crap. The dress uniform and the field uniform wasn't too different anyway. In addition, the elite horse unit that Spain has now uses the same color scheme with the addition of wearing spiked helmets, to make them far more accurate. But what about the new Guardia Real uniform? Is it also blue with red pants?

    No, it's not.

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    Green Khaki, red trim, with blue pants. I considered red, not going to lie. This probably isn't historically accurate at all and takes inspiration from modern Guardia Real wearing dress pants with a field jacket. Really fancy from the waste down. Clearly, they aren't in the middle of an armed conflict but blue pants won't be the defining feature if you get headshot by a sniper. It was between this and red pants and though I prefer red, all modern examples of the Guardia Real had blue pants with red trim, despite once having red pants (which is clearly superior in the fact that it makes it so it doesn't look like you're wearing pajamas). But, I have a dated way of thinking and this is more a metaphor for how you can't stop the future. Red pants one day, blue pants the next despite looking like a boring blue smear at a distance. At least use a lighter blue or something, I mean ffs. -,-

    But, yeah. Blue pants with red trim and that green khaki olive top. If you're elite, people should know about it.

    Now, with that being said, lets address the elephant in the room. The nicely dressed, fabulous pachyderm that is the creative liberty I've taken already. Adrian helmets, jackboots, the belts, the Austrian cap, the new tunic that is the German one in reality.

    The Jackboots were chosen because they were tight around the calf and loose-ish around the thigh. If there were anything closer that didn't use black, I'd have used it. If it were a BROWN Jackboot, I'd have been all over it because some people used something similar in Spain, being the Officers and pretty much no one else. But still. If it were white, I'd prefer it too. Honestly, I just feel black is sort of overrated. I mean, the nation that should be using knee-high boots being Germany had brown at the time. The French had black boots, but I think it went up mid-calf.

    But, what you going to do? It's tight around the calf and that's all I can ask for right now.

    The Austrian Cap and German Tunic is mostly due to the focus being on the warring nations. I dislike how they look similar to the central powers, but working with what I can get away with. don_Durandal was kind enough to do a Spanish research into their uniforms a while back and after a lot of staring at the same picture, I finally decided that a short brim with a tall front and lowered back was available in the Austrian hat which had a shorter brim than the current kepi, a taller front than the current kepi, and a lowered back than the current kepi. Combined with the fact that the gold badge on the very top makes me think of the 1908 design when it didn't have the cover, I can kinda get behind that. As for the tunic, the small squares on the collar reminds me of the numbers and other badges and pins and things that they had. Though not many were red. Regardless, that tunic also has seven buttons. The exact same number that the Spanish tunic should have. Combined with the trim and other bits, it makes it near perfect. The exception being the harness just loops over the shoulders. But, most of the time there will be a backpack so it's a minor detail. Combined with the crossbelts, I'd say it works fine.

    The Adrian Helmets? Why give Spain a helmet at all?

    Well, my reasoning is more for the interwar period that will follow. Mixed with the fact that Spain was ENTIRELY neutral during that period, if war was had they'd have invested in helmets. Though they'd have been more likely to fully invest in the stahlhelm, interwar they were supposed to have quite a few Adrians. So, both are valid in this sense and I went with the Adrian out of fashion's sake.

    Well, what about the trim? Well, I already mentioned how I felt about uniforms of a single color. I prefer uniforms with many colors because why not? The red trim is a bit baseless, I admit, but Cazadores seemed to have green trim. So did the Guardia Civil, who had red trim. Why can't regular infantry have trim too? Because of historical accuracy? I saw some red on a uniform somewhere once, I think it's close enough.

    If someone feels I'm wrong and is strongly against any of this, let me know. If your reasoning is valid enough, I'll take it into consideration. But for now, boom. Ros been had.
    Wow... I see your really fine tuning your skills. Yes, if you get to build the Ros field hats, which were either cover with black oil tarp, to protect it from rain, or a white canvas to protect it form dirt and sun. That would certainly give you an extra in originality, for the Spanish forces. Cuz no other nation had the the Ros hat, invented by Antonio Ros de Olano, and use from 1850's till the late 1920's for field use.

    But if you want also a better visual. Of the typical Spanish soldier and officers, there is this, video. Depicting the horrible disaster of the Annual and the war of the Rif, in 1919.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LP0Nhl0yIQQ
    During this long war in Morrocain War 1911-1920 you will see different hats used from the slouch hat, to the cadet hat or button hat, to the more modern legionnair cap, "Chapiri" , with tasel in front.


    Notice well, most spanish soldier didn't carry the backpack, it was an added weight, and was usually left with the baggage train. But they carried the blanket across their chest, or long winter poncho, good to keep warm in the desert cold.

    In this video, you will see that last Cuban Spanish war 1868-78 then 1878-80 and finally 1895-1899, with their typical tropical Pijama uniform.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8vnr2I-86A

    In this video you see also the end of the reign of the King and the begining of a new dictator of the 2 Spanish Republic, which will bring again new chaos, forming the new start of what Spain does best. Killing each other "Spanish Civil War". Notice the first minutes of this video.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ITyr5KI-u0
    Last edited by Steveholmes; January 21, 2016 at 10:54 PM.

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    Believe it or not, I've just been getting close enough. I can't actually edit the mod myself because I lack technical skill. But, I can type some numbers into a chart until it's blue. ;3

    May have to wait a while until we get a legit ros shako.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poetic Pariah View Post
    Believe it or not, I've just been getting close enough. I can't actually edit the mod myself because I lack technical skill. But, I can type some numbers into a chart until it's blue. ;3

    May have to wait a while until we get a legit ros shako.
    I'm not sure how is your level of Spanish written, or understanding.
    But I know this site which explains the many different patterns the Spanish army the Ros the Pill-box hat and other helmets which they had or was going to have. But forgets to include the Colonial Pith helmet. Enjoy your reading.
    http://www.cascoscoleccion.com/espana/es21sa.htm

    Site of different uniforms,
    http://www.asasve.es/portal/index.ph...2&page_order=4









    Last edited by Steveholmes; January 25, 2016 at 01:43 PM.

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    I'm so glad I love Spain and I think that Spain gives a different point and you can change the history if Spain participated . You can imagine what would have happened if Spain had entered the European war. And wich we would taken.
    Yesterday was the 500 year of the union of the catholic kings and the 510 year of the creation of the swiss guard of the pope. Viva España visca Catalunya and good luck for the mooders, thanks for your job!

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexesg View Post
    I'm so glad I love Spain and I think that Spain gives a different point and you can change the history if Spain participated . You can imagine what would have happened if Spain had entered the European war. And wich we would taken.
    Yesterday was the 500 year of the union of the catholic kings and the 510 year of the creation of the swiss guard of the pope. Viva España visca Catalunya and good luck for the mooders, thanks for your job!
    I'm glad we got Spain Fans on this mod! Cheers Mate!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steveholmes View Post
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    For the record, these are images I edited and posted in a far more complete post in another thread.

    See here: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...4#post10979064
    Last edited by don_Durandal; January 25, 2016 at 03:04 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by don_Durandal View Post
    For the record, these are images I edited and posted in a far more complete post in another thread.

    See here: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...4#post10979064
    Your completely correct. Sorry to duplicate the information. It is hard to search quickly for certain information. Maybe there should be different post for each nation. It would make searching and debating easier. But Great reseach, Sir Don_Durandal.
    Last edited by Steveholmes; January 25, 2016 at 07:22 PM.

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    I need spoiler pics! I hope this is going fine. good luck!

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    Here's some of mine.
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    Just fantastic!

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    Here's a little pic, I also hope you guys get that theft situation under control.

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    Nice! +rep

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    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LP0Nhl0yIQQ
    Here is a very good source . Speaks disaster " Annual" . In which Spain decided to send militia to fight the Rif . We lost by the lack of professionalism and supplies And bad desitions too.
    It is an old movie . You can also see the formation of the legion, the professional body and the victory of the Spanish army by the first landing by sea and air of the whole story.
    And The anthem of the "Legión" el novio de la muerte.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5zaVLWih8vg
    this is if you aré interest of before a desfile" its fun And you have a song discusion between regulars And le legion:
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rTSGsW63H9s
    and this that you can ser The royal guard And The inmemorial guard with some canons from 1909, The royal guard use The same uniform:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IWdGOySHh_U

    And the traditional act for good from the legion the first is tooday and the second meny years ago and the origin of the anthem:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_N8H1U8RfkE
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPO4kHDKDS0




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    Hi Alexesg, I have described exactly those videos in a earlier post. But is still great to resee those videos, of these great regiments.
    Arriba Espanya! Viva Felipe VI!!
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    Arriba! long live to Spanish story! And this mod of course!

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    When you mod The Great War, and immediately regret your decision.

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