Rebels for alliances / are they all part of one huge faction?

[Centurio (Latin)]

Hello my fellow forum users, I have two questions I would like answered today. If anyone has the information I seek please feel free to reply

First question:
In the first Rome total war, rebels weren't their individual factions, what I mean by this is that Roman rebels, Greek rebels, barbarian rebels etc would all be under one faction rather than under their own individual faction. Will this be the same in Rome 2? Or will roman rebels and greek rebels, etc, form their own unique factions.

Second question:
If each types of rebels; Roman, Greek, Barbarian, Carthaginian etc form their own factions, can they then use diplomacy to form alliances.
An example would be if Rome experiences a civil war between two families and the rebel family doesn't have enough legions to beat the other roman family's legions. Can the rebel family form alliances with, say Egypt or other factions for military support a bit like Mark Antony and Cleopatra's alliance against Octavian which flopped.

[Hunniball]

You can't negotiate with rebels, but reemerging factions and factions from civil wars will be available for diplomacy.

[Centurio (Latin)]

You can't negotiate with rebels, but reemerging factions and factions from civil wars will be available for diplomacy.

Ah I see, so there are "rebel" rebels and civil war rebels. The "rebel" rebels who are like Spartacus's folks can't negotiate however civil war rebels such as families revolting can use diplomacy to their advantage.

[111289]

I don't see how people think it's like rome 1. Instead since empire we have the joy of re-emerging factions, now some regions in empire did not have their own faction that occupied the region from the beginning but instead were part of a larger empire. Russia and the Ottomans are good examples when one of their regions rebelled you would have a rebel factions.
But when as france you occupied the Netherlands and they rebelled they would come back as a fully functional faction. This has been improved up to shogun 2.

Since Rome 2 will have very few factions occupying more than 1 region at the beginning being Rome, Carthage, Egypt, the Seleucid empire and a handful of other unplayable factions all but a few regions will have the possibility to spawn a ''new'' faction there will be no need for a rebel faction as all rebellions will create a fully interact able and complete faction.

Now as I mentioned earlier the roman republic starts with all of southern Italy. It is not known if a rebellion will cause one of the italian states such as the samnites to re-emerge or if it will be a generic rebel faction that will take over.

So the short version: There is a chance there will be a generic rebel faction, however the chance for this to happen in a campaign is very small and most rebellins will be new factions. Leading to a big thumbs up for CA.

[SamueleD]

If it is anything like Shogun 2 there should be pretty much one faction for each province, so if a region rebels that faction emerges in the revolt. In certain cases generic rebels get spawned though, but in Shogun 2 they didn't really do anything once they got a province, just sit there and never repair anything.
So rebels exist, but not in the same way that thy did in Rome I. Also no, you can't conduct diplomacy with rebels.

If you take a look at Jack's answers you'll see that during civil wars (but not during normal revolts and generals rebelling), each side can conduct diplomacy independently, with other factions, but they won't listen to each other.