First person artillery view.

[Osseon]

Hello all, just made a new account because no one seemed to be addressing, what I consider, to be a big issue. In the latest Answers topic, Jack confirmed that First person artillery shooting from Fall of the samurai is going to be included in Rome 2, I think this is a disaster for Rome 2.

I'm scared to see catapults and navy ships bombarding long range enemies.

[-=PHX=-Hades]

I don't understand what yer scared of really. Catapults and such won't be (or at least shouldn't be) accurate like cannons were in FoTS.

Keep in mind that in FoTS the artillery is RIFLED CANNONS. Those are very accurate. Catapults...not so much.

[veut]

Don't panic. Just wait for the Game and we will see (maybe THAN its time for PANIC)

[SamueleD]

Oh, OP, don't worry:
1) They won't be accurate
2) They have limited range, no matter who aims them

[Osseon]

is that confirmed? You could aim at the sky and slowly narrow down the accuracy of your shoots until you would be destroying the general outside of the artillery's range!

[Osseon]

PS: Why does this forum only allow me to post like two sentences otherwise it gives me "Forbidden word" error? I'm getting frustrated because I want to say so much more.

[SamueleD]

PS: Why does this forum only allow me to post like two sentences otherwise it gives me "Forbidden word" error? I'm getting frustrated because I want to say so much more.

It is either a bug or you are trying to use a forbidden word.

[Osseon]

I was just talking about navy ships and how bugged they were. You could fire a full broadside with only 1 / 10 cannons remaining and ten men using first person mode. (Now it lets me say it)

[SamueleD]

I was just talking about navy ships and how bugged they were. You could fire a full broadside with only 1 / 10 cannons remaining and ten men using first person mode. (Now it lets me say it)

Let's hope they fixed these issues in Rome II, it was fun aiming things yourself.

[GussieFinkNottle]

PS: Why does this forum only allow me to post like two sentences otherwise it gives me "Forbidden word" error? I'm getting frustrated because I want to say so much more.

It does that for the first few posts to stop spam. After 5 or so you can type as much as you like and after a week you can give rep and vote in polls

[-=PHX=-Hades]

is that confirmed? You could aim at the sky and slowly narrow down the accuracy of your shoots until you would be destroying the general outside of the artillery's range!

Catapults don't have anywhere near the range cannons do. And catapults aren't consistent. If you fire a shot at the exact same angle as the last shot it might not go anywhere close to the last shot.

Play one of the older TW games such as Rome I or Medieval II and you will see just how accurate catapults and such are.

[Osseon]

Catapults don't have anywhere near the range cannons do. And catapults aren't consistent. If you fire a shot at the exact same angle as the last shot it might not go anywhere close to the last shot.

Play one of the older TW games such as Rome I or Medieval II and you will see just how accurate catapults and such are.

I have played those games, and while Cannons were very accurate in FOTS by themselves, the accuracy increase while aiming was significant.

[Ballacraine]

Catapults don't have anywhere near the range cannons do. And catapults aren't consistent. If you fire a shot at the exact same angle as the last shot it might not go anywhere close to the last shot.

Play one of the older TW games such as Rome I or Medieval II and you will see just how accurate catapults and such are.

Also with a catapult, each 'round' is going to have different weight & aerodynamic characteristics, all of which will be taken into account by, within reason , randomising the impact point.

Balla

[-=PHX=-Hades]

Also with a catapult, each 'round' is going to have different weight & aerodynamic characteristics, all of which will be taken into account by, within reason , randomising the impact point.

Balla

I doubt that has anything to do with it in a game. I just think the "splash zone" or whatever you want to call it will be much larger for a catapult than a cannon.

[CnConrad]

is that confirmed? You could aim at the sky and slowly narrow down the accuracy of your shoots until you would be destroying the general outside of the artillery's range!

Are you afraid of using it against the NPc's? if so don't do that and you have nothing to worry about.

If you are worried about that is multiplayer, shame on you you should not play online because you clearly corner camp.

[Osseon]

Are you afraid of using it against the NPc's? if so don't do that and you have nothing to worry about.

If you are worried about that is multiplayer, shame on you you should not play online because you clearly corner camp.

I'm talking about single player. Saying "well if you don't like it, don't use it." is a piss poor argument. Most gamers are compulsive and I don't have the self control to stop myself from using buggy navy ships that never lose a cannon in FPS mode. The first time I saw a fleet of enemy ships with my ironclad having 1/10 cannons, I was like "Screw this" and immediately destroyed the fleet.

I pray that it isn't as bad as FOTS. This game should be focused on tactics and strategy. You are a general commanding an army, not an artillery crew. At least disable this feature in "battle realism"

[Markas]

I'm talking about single player. Saying "well if you don't like it, don't use it." is a piss poor argument. Most gamers are compulsive and I don't have the self control to stop myself from using buggy navy ships that never lose a cannon in FPS mode.

It's not a piss poor argument at all. It's requiring you to exercise basic self-disciple. Really, that's it.

I pray that it isn't as bad as FOTS. This game should be focused on tactics and strategy. You are a general commanding an army, not an artillery crew. At least disable this feature in "battle realism"

Or just don't use it. It's not nicotine addiction we're talking about.

[DogSoldierSPQR]

The only thing they'll be accurate against is walls, to be honest. Hard to miss a 50ft wall haha

But yeah, don't worry. You won't be able to snipe Generals

[Templar Spartan]

The "splash zone" itself is an abstraction of the different projectiles having different trajectories when aimed at the same place. I think that is what he meant.

[Ballacraine]

The "splash zone" itself is an abstraction of the different projectiles having different trajectories when aimed at the same place. I think that is what he meant.

Yup!

Balla