HAN ZHI SHANG v1.03 Released!

[lichaodamun]

Which version of Hanzhishang do you have Oo?

this mod Han Zhi Sang is faulty undefined please help me repair this error

[Seba14]

I do not have this error...maybe check your Mtw2 version ? (cracked?)

[lichaodamun]

I do not have this error...maybe check your Mtw2 version ? (cracked?)

I updated crack 1.5 and patch 1.5 kingdom then it stillfaulty on

[lichaodamun]

I do not have this error...maybe check your Mtw2 version ? (cracked?)

thank you. I craked and not updated patch 1.5 kingdom because if updated patch 1.5 kiingdom will faulty on I want play faction the huns in Han Zhi Shang 1.03 you Seba14 can help me be not

[Falconwatch]

I see what's going on here...

If you're going to come here using deception to push an ulterior motive, at least be better at hiding it. You aren't the first person from 1mod to perform this little circus act,

and you very well could be the same person as before. In light of this, consider discussion on this closed. No further comment from the RoTK team will be made on the matter outside

of official channels between us and the designated Pillars team representative.

Okay, so just because I helped out with their data collection and know their team structure (because I actually bothered to do a search) that automatically makes me a dupe
member of 1mod who comes here and perform little circus act? Seriously can your logic get any more twisted? I help out lots of mod teams with their resource collection,
translations, giving suggestions etc. multicultural ones too, does that automatically makes me a member of every single one of those mod teams? I am just speechless here.
In order for me to reply to this comment, I must quote from a know it all individual on here "what you are saying is nothing short of speculation and conjecture. Please do not
try to dictate to anyone on an issue you know very little about."

I am not hiding anything here, just pointing out some facts for those interested. It is you on the other hand who clearly has something to hide, I stumbled across this thread
and saw a lot of misunderstandings, such as the idea that BBS and PCS are two separate studios working on two different mods, or that the RTW version had been left to rot
and most of its members left. I came here to try my best to ease the situation and voice my own opinions too, yet you just barge in here and accuse me for some random
reasons. Seriously, you use a more cynical set of words? I think it describes your personality pretty well.

Also this isn't your board forum, this isn't even your thread. If you feel the need to post no further comment then please by all means do it. I even welcome this. But you have
absolutely NO right in randomly accusing others and telling them what to do, this is an open forum, not your private little circle.

And next time before you start randomly accusing people of doing things, when you haven't even read the whole conversation, think before

you insult a moderator's (Gigantus) decisions, and twist up others words. I assure you that we know more than you know about this situation. If you really think you know everything

about this issue, go find a solution, rather than barging meaningless and insulting words at us, and especially to a head moderator's team.

If you had read the whole conversation, you would know that nowhere have we denied to allow permission for use of our materials nor has PCS contacted us to use our material. The

issue here is PCS has used our material WITHOUT PERMISSION, which is fined-lined in the TOS as ILLEGAL, and has refused to apologize.

And yes, I can read perfectly fine. I don't see anywhere in the announcement saying that NO team members have ever left. I stated specifically earlier that we have legally acquired

with permission from their team, and nowhere does any contract state that you are required to hand over your own team's materials, even after insults and ignored for 3 months. If

you don't like how things are, go complain to their team, and not us.

As Seether stated above, if you from 1mod, your attempt to acquire permission for your team is only damaging your own and your team's image.

I am not accusing anyone of anything here, simply correcting YOUR statement with facts, I'm backing mine up with links, credit lists etc., and what exactly are you backing up
yours with? Also go ahead and point out where exactly I'm insulting gigantus and his decisions? Go on quote it if you will, voicing a fair opinion does NOT equal to insulting
a moderator, or twisting up other words. You know what? You are clearly the know it all seer who can pull out the TOS from thin air to divert the conversation right?
I'm done with you.

And if you're going to replace all the models and units from the RTW version with your own like you stated many times, then at least do it for real instead of jumping around all
the time, stop using their models then if anything you're saying is serious. I'm not associated with 1mod in any official ways, nor am I attempting to acquire permission for whatever
random things you're speculating in your mind, so I really don't know what you're on about. I have no responsibility for whatever going on between RoTK team and 柱子 studio,
it is yours as well as their job to find a solution to this mess. If you guys wants to cut ties then that's perfectly fine. This is a forum so a third party have rights to voice their
opinions on the matter.

Also are you sure you can read fine? I posted that announcement link in response to your statement that BBS and PCS are different when it is in fact the same deal. Which I have
proven you wrong. The RTW version is basically 三国I and the M2TW version is 三国II, it is the official sequel by 柱子 studio.

• The credits are exactly as requested by the mod leader, as is the logo on the splash screen, in exchange for agreed upon material from the RTW version that is being used.
• My name is in the credits of 1mod.org as I assisted the original 1mod.org team with the script and map while we were in contact.
• We never received a request from any mod\team leader of 1mod.org to use material from our RotK mod and hence the copy\paste job of our painstaking translation is particularly upsetting.
• We do uphold a modder code (use of material without permission etc) here on TWCenter which is anchored in the ToS as has been pointed out. Being an administrator of this site I do hold my team to high standards where this matter is concerned.

Kindly try to obtain information the next time, that way you avoid making baseless statements.



What exactly is a non pro? This?

Thank you gigantus for at least speaking calmly on this matter. Unlike those two who comes here and starts bashing and insulting anyone whom they disagree with, and making up
random accusations to insult a fellow forum member. This is a public forum and people have the right to post their opinion. They don't have to like it but should at least keep an
open mind about it.

Yes I am fully aware that you are on the credit list for the HZS team, I'm not denying anything you have done to help out on the project, appreciate it in fact. Nor am I saying it is
correct to take stuff from other people's work without asking for permission or even giving a notice. My friends from Beilai have had their models stolen by someone on 1mod which is
yet to be removed (not from their official team though), yes we are pissed as well but that doesn't stop me from voicing my opinion of their official mod on TWC.

The thing is RoTK really owe A LOT to the work of 柱子 studio, I think it is fair to say yours wouldn't even exist without the good foundations already set up by their RTW version.
You have stated on your dot points that yours is a translation, of THEIR original work. However painstaking it is it's still nothing compared to writing up all those thousands of detailed
descriptions and texts of their original work. Trust me I know this, you not only needs to be proficient in modern Chinese but also 文言 which is extremely hard to write up.

Even though they poured those thousands of hours of work into their mod, I'm not saying it's correct for them to just take your stuff without even asking. But what I'm trying to say
is something like this should be sorted out in the first place when your team asked for their permission, you don't give nothing or something so little in return, instead you help out in
other possible ways you can to return the favour. This is how it works in all my years in the modding scene, since we're all just a bunch of people banding together to create the games
we want.

[Gigantus]

The thing is RoTK really owe A LOT to the work of 柱子 studio, I think it is fair to say yours wouldn't even exist without the good foundations already set up by their RTW version.

I explicitly mentioned this circumstance in the opening of my mod introduction. In fact the forum header says that it is a porting from RTW to M2TW. Hence it can be expected that the initial material is all from the RTW team's original Chinese version, work would also not have started if I had not received the team's permission.

Even though they poured those thousands of hours of work into their mod, I'm not saying it's correct for them to just take your stuff without even asking. But what I'm trying to say is something like this should be sorted out in the first place when your team asked for their permission, you don't give nothing or something so little in return, instead you help out in other possible ways you can to return the favour. This is how it works in all my years in the modding scene, since we're all just a bunch of people banding together to create the games we want.

The problem here is arising from the understanding that we had dealing with the creators of the original RTW mod: we got their permission to use all their work under the single condition that we give credit to the RTW team (a list was provided on request, see intro of our mod) and use of their team symbol\insignia in our splash screen.
Seeing that there were some problems in their RTW script and some map stuff I offered my help with their current work (different team) which was readily accepted, the credit given was a nice gesture . No request was ever made from their side to use any of our work for their latest project nor was it ever mentioned in our talks about the RTW version. On the other side a further request from us to use the additional huge city battle model from the current version was not granted (something that we can live with and that we understand) which did not stop the new team to use our translation work without asking and then crediting it to the wrong people.
In the light of this (the export_vnvs file alone has over 20.000 lines of text that were all painstakingly translated by Seether) being upset about it is rather understandable. While copying has to be regarded as the greatest form of flattery (if I could do it better I would it myself - isn't it?) doing it without giving the due credit is simply a matter of disrespect and upsetting.
None of my private work and other contributions here (and on other sites) have ever been restricted in it's use - all I am (and modders in general) asking for is for the due credit to be given to them. What 'return' do we get for our work other then that? If that is taken away then why continue? And that's the reason why unpermitted\uncredited use of modders work is that fiercely contested.

[Seba14]

I would just like to thank all the people that are participating to this modding community and give their time for the benefit of players, and here is a teaser of the translation to come :

As for the issue stated above, and for having dug in a lot of threads between other things, I confirm the Rotk team showed a clean and fair ethic since the beginning (Their work is huge, might it be 'just' a port of Rtw, therefore rightfully deserve attached credits), and I hope the result of a possible collaborative work will bring the best of both worlds for the players to enjoy

[Seba14]

I have an original copy therefore I don't know about the cracked version...you could check other threads maybe, or re install a clean copy...as for the Huns it will be done

[lichaodamun]

I have an original copy therefore I don't know about the cracked version...you could check other threads maybe, or re install a clean copy...as for the Huns it will be done

if is as so you can for me a link dowload Han Zhi Shang 1.03 a clean copy. I very want be play faction the hun , Yue Tribess and Han Tmperor in Han Zhi Shang 1.03

[Gigantus]

if is as so you can for me a link dowload Han Zhi Shang 1.03 a clean copy. I very want be play faction the hun , Yue Tribess and Han Tmperor in Han Zhi Shang 1.03

How about checking the first post of this thread?

[lichaodamun]

How about checking the first post of this thread?

I don't not know you speak what. I need a Han Zhi Shang 1.03 in that have faction the huns and Yue Tribess . You can for me a patch of this mod and me want play faction the huns in Han Zhi Shang 1.03

[Gigantus]

There is absolutely no support on this site for cracked versions of the game - please do not insist.

[Gigantus]

If they are present at game start then simply move their entry in descr_strat from unplayable to playable.

[Seba14]

Dong Zhuo's crusade appears after Tao Qian Oo ?

[lekseus]

Seba14, What do you mean by crusade?

[Seba14]

Well there's an event which can be translated as such (playing with Shu) but appears at the wrong place (just before or after Ru'nan)...also I did manage to add some vid-events to fill the gaps (Dong Zhuo/LuBu/LiuBei/Yuan Shao/Yuan Shu) I might still need some help as to the how events strings works, but I'm quite confident, at least Shu and Wei should be fully playable soon

Also I'm thinking to start in 192 instead of 194, for the Wang Yun/Lu Bu plot to be explained and a brief video introduction to Liu Bei (Peach garden oath ect...)

[asisxidis]

please help me a error of han zhi shang 1.0:

I play to turn 318 is faulty on. I faulty in battle when play faction Huns

[pawel0482]

New download links plz because that in first page dont work anymore

[Seba14]

New download links plz because that in first page dont work anymore

Looks like Hotfile is down...here is a link while waiting an 'official' one

link to cracked version removed

[asisxidis]

Looks like Hotfile is down...here is a link while waiting an 'official' one

link to cracked version removed

please for know this is a mod what? Have must this is mod Warring States total war not please help me repair a error of Han Zhi Shang 1.0. I play to turn 318 is faulty on