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    Default Default move is now Run??

    Why did controls change from walk being the default move order to run?
    We felt it was a better default for unit movement Really??? This is going to royally suck for everyone. So now we are forced to run into our enemies? This is a horrible idea. It should be left the way it is double click to run at an enemy. PS the Spartans never ran to their enemy, they walked, it was more intimidating. This is a joke. Hope its moddable, the controls are going to be so awkward.

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    Default Re: Default move is now Run??

    Same as Shogun 2 really.
    I found it annoying that I had to keep holding 'Control' whenever I placed my units just so they could walk. There needs to be a toggle option for this.

    Definitely not good for when I want to maintain cohesion of my units.
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    Default Re: Default move is now Run??

    Quote Originally Posted by DogSoldierSPQR View Post
    Same as Shogun 2 really.I found it annoying that I had to keep holding 'Control' whenever I placed my units just so they could walk. There needs to be a toggle option for this.Definitely not good for when I want to maintain cohesion of my units.
    I had no idea you could press control! I had to keep moving the units and then press "r" so they wouldn't run. Made nervous time when moving discreetly through the forest.You learn new things every day

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hadro View Post
    I had no idea you could press control! I had to keep moving the units and then press "r" so they wouldn't run. Made nervous time when moving discreetly through the forest.You learn new things every day
    Trust me, I had to keep pressing "R" for a very long time as well. I can't remember where I heard it from but it eventually learnt to press control when I want them to walk. It is a hassle but there's nothing we can do unless we can toggle it in Rome 2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DogSoldierSPQR View Post
    Same as Shogun 2 really.
    I found it annoying that I had to keep holding 'Control' whenever I placed my units just so they could walk.
    i didnt know you could do that

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    Default Re: Default move is now Run??

    Yeah, this does sound like an extremely stupid idea. It just means I'll be clicking twice to walk instead of run soooo often. Hopefully it's changeable in options.

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    Default Re: Default move is now Run??

    Ideally, they would add a button to toggle between default run and walk during battle. Maneuvering prior to engagement consists primarily of walking to conserve stamina. Once a player is engaging, movement commands consist primarily of running because timing is critical... That said, I think I use walk commands more frequently than run commands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CDR Hurricane View Post
    Ideally, they would add a button to toggle between default run and walk during battle. Maneuvering prior to engagement consists primarily of walking to conserve stamina. Once a player is engaging, movement commands consist primarily of running because timing is critical... That said, I think I use walk commands more frequently than run commands.
    I usually use walk when I march towards an enemy (And speed up the game as well) so they don't get tired. It is true though, for the majority of the battle you will be wanting to issue run commands. I have had issues with both as default (really the only problem I had with run as default was messing up when trying to hide units), but in my opinion a toggleable option would be ideal as well.

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    The one-click run is probably set to default so that you don't have to spam click as much when you want to disengage your units. Prior to S2 you had to spam click because of these conditions:

    1. For units to disengage properly they need to be ordered a move command several times.

    2. One click means issuing a walk order. Two clicks means issuing a run order. Three clicks resets the order to a walk order.

    this was the case prior to S2. Even though spam clicking is still needed, troops should react to disengagement ordets more effevtively.

    However, this should be toggleable. Personally I liked it better when walk was default, but when the battle commces i would appreciate if run was default.

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    Default Re: Default move is now Run??

    I thought the default run was better especially in the heat of battle, it is much easier to use control to walk when just maneuvering/marching around the battle field and movement doesn't have to be as precise or reactive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinjo View Post
    I thought the default run was better especially in the heat of battle, it is much easier to use control to walk when just maneuvering/marching around the battle field and movement doesn't have to be as precise or reactive.
    Yeah, I got used to it and wen't back to Rome 1 completely forgetting how to play. I even tried grouping units like in SHOGUN 2 to lock formation!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    I even tried grouping units like in SHOGUN 2 to lock formation!
    Then face palm again, because grouping units in Rome 1 to lock formation was a working feature!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CDR Hurricane View Post
    Then face palm again, because grouping units in Rome 1 to lock formation was a working feature!
    Haha, you are right! I just wen't in game to check it out. My memory is pretty bad sometimes.

    I don't really know what I remember I guess, but I remember sometimes when trying to move them while in formation it would completely break up.

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    Default Re: Default move is now Run??

    Please, don't freak out, let me explain, it's like in Shogun 2:
    -Single click: walk
    -Double click: run
    -Drag and drop formation: run
    -Drag and drop formation while holding ctrl: walk

    Simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SamueleD View Post
    Please, don't freak out, let me explain, it's like in Shogun 2:
    -Single click: walk
    -Double click: run
    -Drag and drop formation: run
    -Drag and drop formation

    Simple.
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    Default Re: Default move is now Run??

    It just means I'll be clicking twice to walk instead of run soooo often.

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    Default Re: Default move is now Run??

    Quote Originally Posted by slatetar View Post
    It just means I'll be clicking twice to walk instead of run soooo often.
    No, it's like in Shogun 2.

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    The Answer of Jack onthat was that it was better for them tomake the troops run by defaut, but I foundannoying especially since I want tomove my troops in silence and secretly in the woods, thats not possible and wheneverI start to move them they first make a speed run start then they go back to walk as I commanded them to ... so there is the risk they get spotted ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by PROMETHEUS ts View Post
    The Answer of Jack onthat was that it was better for them tomake the troops run by defaut, but I foundannoying especially since I want tomove my troops in silence and secretly in the woods, thats not possible and wheneverI start to move them they first make a speed run start then they go back to walk as I commanded them to ... so there is the risk they get spotted ..
    Hold ctrl while you drag and drop formations, they will walk, or just single click a move order, they will walk

    Quote Originally Posted by RandyRhoads View Post
    Just imagine a unit of Hastati breaking a unit of Royal Spartans just because the AI had to run them across the whole map.
    What do you mean "had to"?

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    Default Re: Default move is now Run??

    Quote Originally Posted by SamueleD View Post
    Hold ctrl while you drag and drop formations, they will walk, or just single click a move order, they will walk



    What do you mean "had to"?
    He thinks that the AI will only use the default run, I assume. Even though I have had the AI in SHOGUN 2 march and run (and camp on a hill) to me before, so I don't see any problem where he finds one.

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