War of the Roses Mod revival

[conahr1]

I was looking for a war of the Roses mod erliar on today and thought it was a good idea, but the mod seems to be dead now

I have no idea how to mod, but i thought that a basic way to do it would be to take the Brittannia campaign as a base and do the following:

1. remove wales as a faction
2. Move the start date forwards
3. rename the Barons Alliance York and the English to Lancaster
4. change the units to be more period specific (no early troops, change peasants to have a bill instead of pitchfork, ect)
5. change the starting settlments to represent the begining of the conflict (as best as possible)

As I said, I have no modding skill whatsoever and I'm throwing this out there as an idea for just a basic mod, this could even be a starting point for going further with it

[Post Hoc]

Best of luck to you.

[G|I|Sandy]

As I said, I have no modding skill whatsoever and I'm throwing this out there as an idea for just a basic mod, this could even be a starting point for going further with it

Why not try to learn and bring your ideas to life? It is fun, frustrating and demanding at times, but fun nonetheless. And the community is quite appreciative and can provide constructive feedback. M2TW is not dead, and in fact still producing good projects and won't be until at least M3TW is released imo. Just a thought of mine.

[conahr1]

I have some idea of what to do (date changing) and i think i can figure out how to change the starting settlements, beyond that i hve no idea

on a unrelated yet related note, i got to fire a cannon today

[conahr1]

ok work on this mod has officially begun

to begin with i'm gonna focus on changing faction names and settlements

i've set the dates to 1454 (year before the first battle of St Albans) to 1500 (3 years after the last pitched battle)

I might change the start date to 1450 but might not

[G|I|Sandy]

Well this is a good start. Since this is a historical mod I think first you need to do a lot of reading to get the actual details right.

Major things and absolute need for a release:

- Text work (factions, descriptions, building trees, background history etc) <- most important!!!
- Strat map (what provinces to include, dimensions, resources, appearance) <- comes next after knowing historical details
- 3d models (if there is time) <- less important but it is important to make people want to play!

Things that will make it better and can wait until later releases or patches:

- scripts (events, new ancillaries traits etc)
- 2d artworks
- music
- better units, animations etc
- better ai
- custom settlements
- ...

I would suggest start from text editing and history. Find other modders do the other work. It is not easy to find quality modders, but it is nigh impossible to do everything by yourself.

I will certainly be watching this.

Sandy

[conahr1]

i've already been doing research on the build up and the war itself, I'm also in a re-enactment group that portrays a levy from Montgomery so i've got a fairly good idea already First version of the mod will use the exsisting brittannia map and simplify the politics (only english factions will be york and lancaster), later i plan to add more factions (warwick, beaufort, tudor) and either have them all start as nuetral (except york and lancaster) or have them allied with whoever they supported plan is for a basic first mod, then build on that

[conahr1]

well i would like to say i've been working on the mod, well i haven't

i spent the weekend......researching after a fashion, what i mean by this is, i went to bosworth, dressed in full plate and had a brilliant time hitting people with some sort of axe-spear-glaive thing, I also got buldozed by several other people in full plate on a regular basis

this has however given me more ideas for the mod, for example making billmen and english knights move their weapons at a normal speed (have you seen how fast a poll-axe can change from a stab to a chop at your neck?) and i personally find it infuriationg whatching them slowley fight in slow motion, whilst thinking "move faster you fool, they may be a peasant with a knife but they can still kill you"

yeah end point, more ideas for the mod, lots of fun "researching"

[G|I|Sandy]

That requires modding animations. Which imo should be left for later. Factions, background history, strat map... most important stuff.

[conahr1]

yeah sorry I've taken my time about this, kind of forgot about this mod over the winter and got caught up in other stuff

so I'm officially stopping my work on this mod, not that i got much done anyway, I have even less time than I had when I started and still have no idea what to do

If anyone wants to take over feel free to do so

[k/t]

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