The TWC Total War Benchmark thread - compare your real TW performance

[Biggus Splenus]

Thanks alQ, btw, the GTX 780 in your results has 84fps, when it actually gets 100. Go back to one of my first post to see the results.

Splenyi the blood dlc may impact but don't explain your performance issues also confirmed in super pi.

I may have had a bad overclock at the time, I was in a desperate situation, and it's likely I'll re-run super pi soon.

Mate if you need to waste money for ram be sure not to get more than cl11. Btw next year ddr4 I won't do that. You have a basic performance issue. Please replace your mobo as talked. The c2 stepping seems to easy oc haswell aswell.

Btw you perfectly know how much ram rome 2 uses not more than 2 GB at all for the application as they at least need 1-2 GB VRAM and then exceed the 32 bit border of 3.6 GB

True, but hopefully, by some miracle, CA is going to make use of the max ram a 32bit app can use. But unlikely.

[alQamar]

Gtx 780: that's not your result taken in atm. Once I am sure about your cpu and super pi please edit your posting with recent benchmarks and logfiles.


Well just because I am aware of lack of results.
This thread is not reserved for techies and high end rigs please for god sake submit your average desktop and laptop's aswell. Don't be shy !

[A Barbarian]

This thread is not reserved for techies and high end rigs please for god sake submit your average desktop and laptop's aswell. Don't be shy !

Maybe we should also publish the costs of the configuration, that might do the trick to get more 'normal' submissions because it's easy to get great performance if u spend a lot of money
All the stuff in my PC atm did cost about US $3000, lol.

[Dominian]

With the blood pack my cpu benchmark dropped from 52 fps to 42 fps. I know threadrules, but I think this is somewhat important information for everyone who follows the thread. Bloodpatch costs a lot of performance on the CPU side of things.

[alQamar]

That's ok. I just remind because you asked how obtain it.

[alQamar]

Well for a 4670k and 770 gtx with a 256 ssd plus 2TB HDD you pay about 1370 € including windows 8. That's a good price and performance so actually I don't know about prices. I thought about it too for a while but prices are old soon. And then differ in all countries. So bad comparison.
Sorry I will not start this.

[A Barbarian]

Sure, price is a somewhat fuzzy criteria but if someone spent 4 times as much money you don't feel so bad when you only get half the performance
Anyway, don't forget to update the thread with the crossfire results

[alQamar]

Sure, price is a somewhat fuzzy criteria but if someone spent 4 times as much money you don't feel so bad when you only get half the performance
Anyway, don't forget to update the thread with the crossfire results

true. Well crossfire... I hope to get in general more results with AMD processors and graphics cards. Somehow it feels for me except some tech guys people do not like to read and do this quite simple procedure.

I report objective about things as most I can do here.

[alQamar]

added new files to fix the blood patch DLC problem. Blood is now OFF in CPU and GPU benchmark in my attached files. So it does not compromise your results, independent from you have this blood patch or not.

All people that do have blood patch are asked to re-run both benchmarks and submit all logfiles again. Thank you for your time, and sorry for that. God bless that are not much, afaik.

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Added results for another 3930K with faster RAM and a GTX 680 SLI

[alQamar]

hi there! My suggestion: Please run the benchmarks vangoth, at least the CPU benchmark with the attached preset file. And then we can talk again after you submitted your logfiles. Do not like you accusing me telling BS
If you do not like to spent this little work please check the results section.

[SamueleD]

Huzzay! By forcing the game to see my iGPU memory as 1GB I managed to run the GPU benchmarks, I had previously set it to 500MB, but apparently that was not enough.

Anyway, I've redone all the test, as asked by alQamar, unfortunately many of the high quality settings are not supported by my iGPU, so I had to lower a good number of settings by one level.
Since the settings alQ provided (even lowered to their compatibility level) are absolutely unplayable on my laptop, I also run a benchmark using the default setting the game gives to the iGPU.

Personally I find the default settings a bit laggy, so I play with everything disabled or turned down to it's lowest value, but with large unit sizes, large fleet size, in DX11 mode, with Shader Model 5.

All benchmarks use the tweak for dual cores with HT, setting the thread limit to 4 (4 was better than 8 in my case), and have 1GB of video memory forced in the settings file, and of course blood disabled.

CPU Benchmark 2.txtCPU-Z Report 2.txtalQ GPU Benchmark_adapted.txtdefault settings GPU Benchmark.txt

[alQamar]

Well you said it

thats just BS..

But I can forgive you this little rage.

my experience with AMD CPUs is quite o

Make your own facts please instead of talking about.

If you think the data is basically not representative please run the CPU benchmarks. If you are unsure how give me a PM and I will do it for you via Teamviewer remotely. It is easy done within 15 mins.
The data we have now is representative enough as we have 3 results with a 5 GHz AMD processor within that caps at 25 fps. Which is poor and slow either way.

Great effort Sam, how did you force it? I want to try it on my 3220T aswell. Added your results, thanks again SamueleD.

[SamueleD]

Great effort Sam, how did you force it? I want to try it on my 3220T aswell. Added your results, thanks again SamueleD.

You are welcome
I simply set:
gfx_video_memory 1073741824; # gfx_video_memory <int>, Override available video memory (bytes) #

in the preference file (and the benchmarks preference files), and I feel extremely stupid for not having tried it before, and having just stopped at 500MB

[alQamar]

Aragorn don't listen to that. You asked it in the advice thread already. TOTAL WAR does not run fine in case of melee and cam closeups with and AMD processors. It will run but not "fine".
Please start the game and choose dx9 cpu benchmark as I know you seem to have problems understanding my description. Understood?

[Biggus Splenus]

@ VanGoth - all the results in this thread where performed by members of the community, so it's 100% reliable and true...

alQ saying that AMD CPUs are "unusable" in TW might be going a bit far in my opinion though, because they certainly can be used well to play TW, but if you're in the market for a new CPU specifically for TW, Intel is definitely the logical solution.

[VanGoth]

Yes thats my point actually, saying AMD CPUs are "unusable" for TW is plain wrong, perhaps that particular part in his post can be rewritten in some way.

[SamueleD]

Yes thats my point actually, saying AMD CPUs are "unusable" for TW is plain wrong, perhaps that particular part in his post can be rewritten in some way.

Let's be honest here: an AMD CPU will run the game, but less than 20fps at stock speeds in melee means pretty much unplayable, the only reason it's accepted is that you are not always in thick melee, but Rome II is going to be a melee heavy game, which means that an AMD CPU is going to cause lag more often.
They are usable, but any Intel CPU, at the same price, will give you better fps in TW, that's just the way it is, even a cheap i3 (desktop) will perform better than an eight core FX. So while you might still keep yours and enjoy the game, if you are going to buy a new CPU for TW, there is really no reason to pick an AMD one. And finding data for providing better shopping advice for Rome II is the whole point of this thread.

[alQamar]

I personally do not get why you VanGoth and Aragorn do not submit your results instead of talking and then even say we do not have enough representative data. That's really odd.

[Nippy]

Hi alQamar
Please see attached
Cheers!

[alQamar]

Hi alQamar
Please see attached
Cheers!

hi Nippy,

I noticed some misconfigurations in your rig:
>> RAM is not configured properly
go to BIOS and choose A.I tweaker: XMP / XMP 2 as listed below
XMP #2 9.0-9-9-24-41-2T @ 800 MHz (1.500 Volts)
>> your graphics card driver is outdated please update
>> your CPU is not properly overclocked. If you have a NON STOCK Intel cooler choose sync all cores and raise max turbo to 45-42 ill it is running stable. Do not OC on a stock cooler Get the Arctic Freezer 13 if you, otherwise you wasted money for K CPU.

>>If you have time please replace your mainboard at your retailer for free. Is has a buggy C1 stepping still. You need the fixed C2 stepping.
Once you configured drivers and RAM please run the benchmarks again and submit all log files. I will not take your results in atm.
>> number of threads has to be 16 not 32 for your CPU to improve performance with 32 it drops again.
>> question: your display is not 1920x1080?

@Babydoc: cpu bench with number of thread 32 is missing you ran default (0)