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    Here's a vid I found (which is also from the Rome series) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxLqx8xF9Pw

    I really like how the Romans stood in defense, not breaking at all. I hope it's like this in Rome 2.

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    The main danger of legionaries breaking is at the initial warband charge especially if the warband emerged from cover by surprise and/or the Legionaries were raw recruits. After as the warband charge lost its momentum the advantages of regular drill will mean the Romans gain the upper hand. I don't think they rotated ranks quite that often.

    The Legions were best adapted to fighting slower moving formations like the Greek phalanx. Ceasar records the Barbarians charging with such force,speed and deep columns that the Legions didn't even get time to throw their pila. The Barbarians continued with the tactic throughout Imperial times simply because it was their best chance against the Legions. If this failed and it generally did, then the warband stood little chance.

    The front ranks of the warband had the quality fighters, after were the farmer levies who only fought well against a fleeing enemy. The Legions weren't comfortable fighting against cavalry either, but again once the momentun was gone the cavalry stood little chance as well.

    Maybe Ceasar could have said"Hmmm! Prepare him for my bedchamber"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wulfgar610 View Post
    The main danger of legionaries breaking is at the initial warband charge especially if the warband emerged from cover by surprise and/or the Legionaries were raw recruits. After as the warband charge lost its momentum the advantages of regular drill will mean the Romans gain the upper hand. I don't think they rotated ranks quite that often.

    The Legions were best adapted to fighting slower moving formations like the Greek phalanx. Ceasar records the Barbarians charging with such force,speed and deep columns that the Legions didn't even get time to throw their pila. The Barbarians continued with the tactic throughout Imperial times simply because it was their best chance against the Legions. If this failed and it generally did, then the warband stood little chance.

    The front ranks of the warband had the quality fighters, after were the farmer levies who only fought well against a fleeing enemy. The Legions weren't comfortable fighting against cavalry either, but again once the momentun was gone the cavalry stood little chance as well.

    Maybe Ceasar could said"Hmmm! Prepare him for my bedchamber"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by theDaedricPrince View Post
    Here's a vid I found (which is also from the Rome series) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxLqx8xF9Pw

    I really like how the Romans stood in defense, not breaking at all. I hope it's like this in Rome 2.
    I don't know the particular passage, but doesn't Caesar mention in his gallic wars that it is always better to engage with an enemy by charging, rather than remaining static?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lavrentivs View Post
    I don't know the particular passage, but doesn't Caesar mention in his gallic wars that it is always better to engage with an enemy by charging, rather than remaining static?
    It's circumstancial. Don't want to charge uphill at spearmen with cavalry, for example.

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    Default Re: Battle clip from Rome series

    they forgot even to "mod" the sound for advancing. Instead of a whistle we still have the same sound than in Shogun 2
    Shogun 2
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...sTa2PN6c&t=248
    Rome 2
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcN_i...tailpage&t=110

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    Quote Originally Posted by alQamar View Post
    they forgot even to "mod" the sound for advancing. Instead of a whistle we still have the same sound than in Shogun 2
    Shogun 2
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...sTa2PN6c&t=248
    Rome 2
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcN_i...tailpage&t=110

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    True the same horn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alQamar View Post
    they forgot even to "mod" the sound for advancing. Instead of a whistle we still have the same sound than in Shogun 2
    Shogun 2
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...sTa2PN6c&t=248
    Rome 2
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcN_i...tailpage&t=110

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    Quote Originally Posted by alQamar View Post
    they forgot even to "mod" the sound for advancing. Instead of a whistle we still have the same sound than in Shogun 2
    Shogun 2
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...sTa2PN6c&t=248
    Rome 2
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcN_i...tailpage&t=110

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    Actually, if you hear the recent prologue videos you can hear a new different horn. Maybe you should take a look at more recent footage.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...LiN0M7pOs&t=75

    Lots of it from this point onward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    Actually, if you hear the recent prologue videos you can hear a new different horn. Maybe you should take a look at more recent footage.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...LiN0M7pOs&t=75

    Lots of it from this point onward.
    The new horn has a deeper sound to it which is nice

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    Lol yes preorder Rome 2 Total Alpha
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    True thanks for posting but this one is quite in the background
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    Default Re: Battle clip from Rome series

    It all depends on the enemy, the commander and the units. Under a complete moron of a leader and with green units a most decently sized barbaric force should scare the green soldiers and unless that changes in the midst of battle it should be fairly quick paced. As stated once soldiers are in the grind of a battle and the shock and awe effect of initial charges and skirmishes have worn off then a Roman army should find itself beginning to cut through its enemy. They were efficient in causing blows to their opponents with very little effort while remaining largely protected.

    As mentioned they didn't rotate as quickly as that but the battle is obviously spaced out a lot longer than that.
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