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    when you play will you have a feeling like you are in command of a disiplined army or unit like in ntw it didnt returned to shogun so i hope it returns now especialy now with roman troops

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    But yes I am looking forward to cohesive clashes of troops. Very satisfying.

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    Their formations are tighter as the romans, I'm guessing this feeling you are talking about will be different across all different cultures. I'm sure the barbarians will be more loose like in Shogun, so it all depends on who you play as I'm guessing

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    NTW didn't really have that feeling. It was an 'eh' game. But as HolyRoman said, all the cultures/factions will be diverse. Obviously the Romans will be highly disciplined than any other faction. So it's all different pretty much.

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    Talk about disciplined the best should be Spartan since they are soldier for life since birth not just a profession. Roman only come second after the reform
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    I expect any faction that uses phalanx formation effectively to have well disciplined troops. In classical Greek warfare, bloodlust was considered dishonorable, and the unit was more important than the individual. Battle was about who held position long enough, not who killed the most. I would not expect a pike unit that fights every man for himself to last very long.

    (As a side note, always keep your troops in guard mode if you want them to maintain formation and look well disciplined.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by CDR Hurricane View Post
    I expect any faction that uses phalanx formation effectively to have well disciplined troops. In classical Greek warfare, bloodlust was considered dishonorable, and the unit was more important than the individual. Battle was about who held position long enough, not who killed the most. I would not expect a pike unit that fights every man for himself to last very long.

    (As a side note, always keep your troops in guard mode if you want them to maintain formation and look well disciplined.)
    Actually not, that idea is only start after the use of Phalanx formation for Hoplite and especially for Phalangite. Greeks still believed that there is valor and honor to earn in battlefield where melee troops clashed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CDR Hurricane View Post
    I expect any faction that uses phalanx formation effectively to have well disciplined troops. In classical Greek warfare, bloodlust was considered dishonorable, and the unit was more important than the individual. Battle was about who held position long enough, not who killed the most. I would not expect a pike unit that fights every man for himself to last very long.

    (As a side note, always keep your troops in guard mode if you want them to maintain formation and look well disciplined.)
    It was the opposite. Cowardice and fear of battle was dishonorable, if a hoplite dropped his shield, in any city state, he would be charged with treason. The Greeks had a concept called the Aristeia, or moment of excellence. The hoplites who preformed best in battle were rewarded with a prize. Herodotus refers to it during Plataea. There's also a similar concept in Thucydides where he mentions that Brasidas was the first Spartan to be decorated during the war with Athens.

    Also, in regard to most armies at this times, regulated battle formations varied and weren't standardized to the point they were at during the Napoleonic wars. The only true professional army was Rome's. The phalanx, while an effective formation, was used by troops who would be classified as a militia by modern (even Napoleonic) standards, even though there were exceptions (the Spartans, the Sacred Band, or a city states' Epilektoi).
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    The Romans indeed seemed to move very organised in Teutoberg gameplay. I'm talking about the very first bit when Al moves the cohort that was essentially untouched by the burning balls. They nicely got into position. Obviously they weren't so coordinated when they were sprinting around but that's bound to happen with everyone. So yeah, I'm thinking there's going to be a very professional feel with the Romans but not so much for a lot of other factions.

    Quote Originally Posted by CDR Hurricane View Post
    I expect any faction that uses phalanx formation effectively to have well disciplined troops. In classical Greek warfare, bloodlust was considered dishonorable, and the unit was more important than the individual. Battle was about who held position long enough, not who killed the most. I would not expect a pike unit that fights every man for himself to last very long.

    (As a side note, always keep your troops in guard mode if you want them to maintain formation and look well disciplined.)
    Yeah. The Greek factions, especially certain units, should move in a very professional and coordinated manner.
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    Default Re: unit feeling from ntw

    they look like there well trained and disiplined especialy when you take control over them up close like when you zoom in

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