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    Default Egyptian scythed chariots - Bronze Age or Hellenistics finally?

    The first trailer of the Egyptians (Cleopatra trailer) was the chariot of the Bronze Age.
    There were speculations that it was only the chariot of Pharaoh.

    Then came the screenshots of the historical Hellenistic scythed chariots.



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    However, in the latest trailer we see again the Egyptian scythed chariots unit of the Bronze Age. Will they be finally?






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    that's great! i had hopes for this and a few other things. i hope they turn out just as well.
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    may I ask where did you got those pics?
    Empire II and Medieval III pls

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    Quote Originally Posted by vietanh797 View Post
    may I ask where did you got those pics?
    one of the latest videos

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    OMG a spartan with a gladius? and holding the shield in a wrong way.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenerife_Boy View Post
    OMG a spartan with a gladius? and holding the shield in a wrong way.....
    Interesting fact: That Spartan is also wearing Macedon team colors (black, yellow, red). I'm curious about the implications.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CDR Hurricane View Post
    Interesting fact: That Spartan is also wearing Macedon team colors (black, yellow, red). I'm curious about the implications.
    That Spartan was probably a Macedonian unit, I wouldn't have thought CA would put units from dlc factions into the intro video. It doesn't seem right putting factions that aren't included in the main game into the intro. Just my two cents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenerife_Boy View Post
    OMG a spartan with a gladius? and holding the shield in a wrong way.....


    what?
    every human being doesnt fight the same way every time they stab someone throughout the ages?

    BLASHPHEMY!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenerife_Boy View Post
    OMG a spartan with a gladius? and holding the shield in a wrong way.....
    He had originally a spear, but he threw it on a egyptian guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenerife_Boy View Post
    OMG a spartan with a gladius? and holding the shield in a wrong way.....
    Wow he's holding the shield the wrong way. He's trying to kill someone lol. If you have the chance to attack with an extended reach you take it, Spartans didn't just sit behind their shield wall you know.

    Can't stand people who say somethings wrong because it's out of the ordinary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Dakier View Post
    Wow he's holding the shield the wrong way. He's trying to kill someone lol. If you have the chance to attack with an extended reach you take it, Spartans didn't just sit behind their shield wall you know.

    Can't stand people who say somethings wrong because it's out of the ordinary.
    I think it's wrong not because it's out of the ordinary but because Hoplon-style shields don't have a center grip like that. They have a strap that your arm goes through and a handle towards the end, meaning you can't hold a Hoplon like that. It's essentially strapped to your forearm. Also, their shield loses its purpose when held like that because it's not designed to be used that way.

    It doesn't bother me that much, but it is wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Dakier View Post
    Wow he's holding the shield the wrong way. He's trying to kill someone lol. If you have the chance to attack with an extended reach you take it, Spartans didn't just sit behind their shield wall you know.

    Can't stand people who say somethings wrong because it's out of the ordinary.
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    Out with the Hellenistic bull, I'm glad to see that. If I want to fight Macedon, I'll fight Macedon. In the Classic Era when fighting Egypt I want to feel like playing against old Egypt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Narf View Post
    Out with the Hellenistic bull, I'm glad to see that. If I want to fight Macedon, I'll fight Macedon. In the Classic Era when fighting Egypt I want to feel like playing against old Egypt.
    Yeah, and when I fight a German Faction, I want to feel like I'm fighting the third reich, because logic!
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    Quote Originally Posted by nce_wht_guy View Post
    Yeah, and when I fight a German Faction, I want to feel like I'm fighting the third reich, because logic!
    Logic would say that thousands of years of culture wouldn't be washed away because the Greeks invaded 50 years ago.

    Not that people living in what would become Germany thousands of years later would act like a political party from modern day.

    Yeah, you're smart and that was a good quip there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsully16 View Post
    Logic would say that thousands of years of culture wouldn't be washed away because the Greeks invaded 50 years ago.

    Not that people living in what would become Germany thousands of years later would act like a political party from modern day.

    Yeah, you're smart and that was a good quip there.
    Agreed. Not to mention that the Ptolemies merged Greek culture with Egyptian culture and kept Egyptian culture alive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsully16 View Post
    Logic would say that thousands of years of culture wouldn't be washed away because the Greeks invaded 50 years ago.

    Not that people living in what would become Germany thousands of years later would act like a political party from modern day.

    Yeah, you're smart and that was a good quip there.
    I'm not the expert regarding ptolemaic army structure but as far as I know the first time when they used native egyptians in the army was against Antiochos III, and even there they fought in greek style phalangs. Before only greeks or mercenaries served in the army.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion_IX View Post
    I'm not the expert regarding ptolemaic army structure but as far as I know the first time when they used native egyptians in the army was against Antiochos III, and even there they fought in greek style phalangs. Before only greeks or mercenaries served in the army.
    Weren't they "trained in the Macedonian fashion"? If that's the case then I'd say the written history is pretty vague. I think jsully16 has a point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsully16 View Post
    Logic would say that thousands of years of culture wouldn't be washed away because the Greeks invaded 50 years ago.

    Not that people living in what would become Germany thousands of years later would act like a political party from modern day.

    Yeah, you're smart and that was a good quip there.
    That's right here. Culture is one thing and army is another. Imagine if we would use 50 year old tech. Superpowers would still use Patton tanks and Mig-15s instead of Abrams tanks and F-22s. That's big technological advancement. And while technology didn't advance so quickly in the old times 50 years was sufficient enough to reform army big time. Not to mention that Egypt was ruled by foreign powers for much more time, Assyrians, Persians and Macedonians combined certainly ruled Egypt for much more than 50 years. And as some people pointed out Ptolemaics didn't even recruit natives for some time. But since it's Total War game and you make your own history, even if natives would somehow overthrow Greek overlords I doubt they would go back to impractical bronze age weapons and armor.
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