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    Default Where did the Temple of Zeus go?

    Where did Zeus go, was the temple relocated inside of the city or was it just removed altogether?

    Temple of Zeus in an older screen shot.


    In the latest screen shot of the campaign map the Temple has seemed to disappear.
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    Default Re: Where did the Temple of Zeus go?

    As memory serves, you have to build the monuments. In this campaign the temple hasn't been built yet.


    If I'm correct I wonder if you have to wait for the correct faction to build the monument so you can take it over. It would be weird if Egypt hadn't build the pyramids but Rome took over and build them.

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    Default Re: Where did the Temple of Zeus go?

    Quote Originally Posted by iWarsaw View Post
    As memory serves, you have to build the monuments. In this campaign the temple hasn't been built yet.


    If I'm correct I wonder if you have to wait for the correct faction to build the monument so you can take it over. It would be weird if Egypt hadn't build the pyramids but Rome took over and build them.
    would be weird for the ptolemies to build the pyramids anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 111289 View Post
    would be weird for the ptolemies to build the pyramids anyway.

    If you look at the panorama, you can see the pyramids in the distance... So I am thinking that there are 2 possibilities:

    1) They removed the temple due to aesthetic reasons for the panorama

    2) Some wonders must be constructed

    And (unlikely) perhaps the wonders can be destroyed...

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    Considering the Temple of Zeus at Olympia was built 200 years before the campaign starts that would be weird. I don't think wonders and monuments are the same thing in the game, the monuments will probably be like they were in NTW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinjo View Post
    Considering the Temple of Zeus at Olympia was built 200 years before the campaign starts that would be weird. I don't think wonders and monuments are the same thing in the game, the monuments will probably be like they were in NTW.
    Well that certainly changes things. I guess I don't know wtf I'm talking about.

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    Default Re: Where did the Temple of Zeus go?

    It was present in RTW. I think it should be present from the start, along with all ancient wonders (except the ones that Rome built later, like Colosseum). Napoleon's monuments were justified, since they all were constructed only after the game's beginning. But here, they should not be constructable, they should be pre-present.

    It would be weird to build Pyramids as the Ptolemies, indeed. They were constructed a thousand years before than that.
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    The marble resource has disappeared as well. As the mountains and forest look different they must be different builds. Possible they were taken out to be sexed up a bit.
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    It looks completely different. The mountains and addition of a large forest, at the same time removal of marble and a great wonder.

    It was better at first in my opinion.
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    Default Re: Where did the Temple of Zeus go?

    Quote Originally Posted by General Maximus View Post
    It looks completely different. The mountains and addition of a large forest, at the same time removal of marble and a great wonder.

    It was better at first in my opinion.
    They didn't remove the marble resource, just moved it. And it also looks like it is being worked in the panoramic screen shot as there are cranes around it however in the older screenshot it is not developed. Here is the link to the panoramic and a picture showing the developed marble quarry.http://wiki.totalwar.com/w/Campaign_Panoramic
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    Default Re: Where did the Temple of Zeus go?

    Hopefully CA puts it back in the final build, it would be pretty cool if they put it somewhere close to where the fortified army is. That way if an army marches up from the South East and a battle takes place there you will be able to see it on/near the battlefield. The main issue with the wonder in the original RTW is it was located in such a secluded location you really had to go out of your way to make a battle happen near the location, but when you did it made for a very nice scene.


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    Default Re: Where did the Temple of Zeus go?

    Stupidest off topic post of the day

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    This is complete speculation thread for what is most likely a doctored screenshot.......

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    you're showing us a picture of Sicily but the Temple is located elsewhere.

    Meaning, both pictures are showing a different location.

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    Default Re: Where did the Temple of Zeus go?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sowilo View Post
    This is complete speculation thread for what is most likely a doctored screenshot.......
    How is it speculation? We have evidence from 2 official screenshots one with the wonder and one without, there is nothing speculative about that at all. Doctored screenshot? nope not at all here are the links to the official pics.

    Without Wonder
    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...shot-Treatment

    With Wonder
    http://media.pcgamer.com/files/2013/...-Rome-2-11.jpg


    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyPoopCereal View Post
    you're showing us a picture of Sicily but the Temple is located elsewhere.

    Meaning, both pictures are showing a different location.
    You can't be serious? You might want to work on your geography a little bit.

    Greece
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    Sicily
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    It's Greece I can assure you, here is the panorama.
    http://tww-data.s3.amazonaws.com/panorama4/index.html

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    Default Re: Where did the Temple of Zeus go?

    Sicily has two settlements in it, and you can see a Spartan army on the left and an Egyptian army in the far distance. That's clearly (what passes for) the Peloponnese.

    Maybe you can't see things like wonders at that zoom level?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim_Ward View Post
    Sicily has two settlements in it, and you can see a Spartan army on the left and an Egyptian army in the far distance. That's clearly (what passes for) the Peloponnese.

    Maybe you can't see things like wonders at that zoom level?
    Yup just realized my mistake.

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    Pretty sure that's not Sicily. As the mountains and forests have been re-jigged in Southern Greece it seems likely the art assets of the Temple of Zeus and the Marble resource were removed for polishing purposes. Both are noted on the campaign map planner so it seems unlikely they are permanently moved.
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    Default Re: Where did the Temple of Zeus go?

    I think it's simply because the mountain cover it from our view. Why make such a fuss?
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