AntiChrist

[The Walrus]

The first one was Napolean
The second was Hitler
and the third was ??????

I heard some where he was already out. Do you think he is out? If you do what age?

[Rush Limbaugh]

The first one was Mohammed.

[MasterAdnin]

The first one was Mohammed.

That's not funny at all Rush. Plus, Christianity never says that there will not be anymore prophets after Jesus(PBUH), the Church just condemns Muhammad(PBUH), because they hate anything that doesn't agree with them, as history has shown us.

Salaam,
Adnan

[Kscott]

That's not funny at all Rush. Plus, Christianity never says that there will not be anymore prophets after Jesus(PBUH), the Church just condemns Muhammad(PBUH), because they hate anything that doesn't agree with them, as history has shown us.

Salaam,
Adnan

Ive never seen the Church hate Buddhists, Taoists or any of the other eastern religions. Perhaps a few isolated instances, but certainly not as a rule of thumb. Would seem then your assertion doesnt hold up.

And while Rush was joking, by Christian doctrine Muhammad could very well be considered an "antichrist" of sorts. If someone claims to be of God, yet is really leading them away from them surely they are the work of the devil. I dont personally believe it, but I do see the justification from Christian doctrine.

[MasterAdnin]

And while Rush was joking, by Christian doctrine Muhammad could very well be considered an "antichrist" of sorts. If someone claims to be of God, yet is really leading them away from them surely they are the work of the devil. I dont personally believe it, but I do see the justification from Christian doctrine.

True, yet what did he do to Christians? How did he affect them in a bad way? He told them to pray to God, and never once did he claim that he was God or that people had to pray to him. He did nothing but make people more religious, and that has lasted to this day.

Salaam,
Adnan

[Kscott]

True, yet what did he do to Christians? How did he affect them in a bad way? He told them to pray to God, and never once did he claim that he was God or that people had to pray to him. He did nothing but make people more religious, and that has lasted to this day.

Salaam,
Adnan

He denied Jesus, who by Christian doctrine is the only way to reach heaven. That surely is a very bad thing in Christians eyes...

[The Walrus]

Ive never seen the Church hate Buddhists, Taoists or any of the other eastern religions. Perhaps a few isolated instances, but certainly not as a rule of thumb. Would seem then your assertion doesnt hold up.

And while Rush was joking, by Christian doctrine Muhammad could very well be considered an "antichrist" of sorts. If someone claims to be of God, yet is really leading them away from them surely they are the work of the devil. I dont personally believe it, but I do see the justification from Christian doctrine.

Hmmmmmmm :hmmm: Could someone google it? I'm doing homework right now.

[Trey]

That's not funny at all Rush. Plus, Christianity never says that there will not be anymore prophets after Jesus(PBUH), the Church just condemns Muhammad(PBUH), because they hate anything that doesn't agree with them, as history has shown us.

Salaam,
Adnan

I wouldn't say Islam likes stuff that doesn't agree with them either...

[Sidus Preclarum]

The first one was Mohammed.

I'd personnaly say Martin Luther :p

And , again, it is NapoleOn , folks...

[Sidus Preclarum]

excuse me, but firstly I'm officially the Antichrist here...

Secondly, to try to make the topic somwhat interesting :

Identifications during the 1st millennium

According to Bernard McGinn, in Christianity's early days the Antichrist was identified variously as spirit of heresy (by Polycarp), the Roman empire (by Irenaeus), or the resurrected Nero (by John Chrysostom).

and, finally : it's NapoleOn, ffs !

[The Walrus]

Really? Check this topic. http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=60993

[over-man]

I think we all established that i was the antichrist in the 666 thread http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=59374.
I'm still seeing 666 all the time. There are 1,666 threads in the mudpit right now.

[Shigawire]

I think we all established that i was the antichrist in the 666 thread http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=59374.
I'm still seeing 666 all the time. There are 1,666 threads in the mudpit right now.

LOL

[The Walrus]

Oh I already read that. Are you sure your just not a prophet or something sent to warn us or your the antichrist.

[over-man]

Oh I already read that. Are you sure your just not a prophet or something sent to warn us or your the antichrist.

I thought that was jesus's job? I just hope i'm incredibly good at finding 666's in random numbers.

[The Walrus]

I thought that was jesus's job? I just hope i'm incredibly good at finding 666's in random numbers.

No Jesus's job is to save us.. not sure though. Check this quote out

Even now in Heaven there are Angels carrying savage weapons.
-St. Paul

The end of days is coming my friends!

[Richard the Lionheart]

Islam has a mention of the "AntiChrist" as well. Apparently it's not something mentioned in the Koran but rather the Hadith. If you read it all the way to the end, you might be somewhat surprised. :wink:

In the Muslim traditions, quoting from Hadith (the sayings of Muhammad), the Antichrist is a "Dajjal" (liar or deceiver) who will come near the end times, and will command great powers (he is not directly mentioned in the Qur'an, only in the Hadith), and will be well known and feared in his time. (See also: Dajjal)

Other Muslims have identified the Antichrist as "Al Massih Al-Dajjal". Al-Massih refers to Messiah (Arabic المسيح, and Dajjal refers to the fact of being False/Liar. This man will also come in the end times, commanding great powers and being popular in his heyday, but will cause havoc and spread terror around the world.

The Prophet, Allah's apostle, said "No prophet was sent but that he warned his followers against the one-eyed liar (Ad-Dajjal). Beware! He is blind in one eye, and your Lord is not so, and there will be written between his (Ad-Dajjal's) eyes (the word) Kafir (that is, disbeliever)" [Hadith - Bukhari 9.245, Narrated Anas] (this Hadith is also quoted by Abu Huraira and Ibn 'Abbas).

"... He (the Dajjal) will be a young man with twisted, cropped hair, and a blind eye. I compare him with AbdulUzza ibn Qatan. He who among you will survive to see him should recite over him the opening verses of Surah al-Kahf (xviii). He will appear on the way between Syria and Iraq and will spread mischief right and left. O servant of Allah! Adhere (to the path of Truth)... He will come to the people and invite them (to a wrong religion); they will affirm their faith in him and respond to him. He will then give a command to the sky: there will be rainfall upon the Earth and it will grow crops. Then in the evening, their pasturing animals will come to them with their humps very high, their udders full of milk and their flanks distended. He will then come to another people and invite them. But they will reject him so he will go away from them; they will have a drought and nothing will be left with them in the form of wealth. He will then walk through the desert and say to it: Bring forth your treasures. The treasures will come out and gather before him like a swarm of bees. He will then call someone in the flush of youth, strike him with the sword, cut him into two pieces and make these pieces lie at the distance which is generally between the archer and his target. He will then call (that young man) and he will come forward laughing with his face gleaming (with happiness). It will at this very time that Allah will send Isa (The Christ/Jesus), son of Mary. He will descend at the white minaret on the eastern side of Damascus, wearing two garments lightly dyed with saffron and placing his hands on the wings of two Angels. When he lowers his head, there will fall beads of perspiration from his head, and when he raises it up, beads like pearls will scatter from it. Every non-believer who smells the odour of his body will die and his breath will reach as far as he is able to see. He will then search for him (Dajjal) until he catches hold of him at the gate of Ludd and kills him. Then a people whom Allah had protected will come to Isa, son of Mary, and he will wipe their faces and inform them of their ranks in Paradise..." [Hadith - Muslim #7015, Narrated An-Nawwas ibn Sam'an]

[The Walrus]

I am the eggman
They are the eggman
I am the walrus

Goob Goob Goo'Joob

I am the eggman
they are the eggman
I am the AntiChrist

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I think I found a good themesong for him by changing the lines of a Beatle's song :tooth:

[Rush Limbaugh]

He never denied Jesus(PBUH). He said that the people that followed him had misunderstood his words and were following them not according to what Jesus(PBUH) had said.

Yet in anthoer thread you say we should follow the original bible. Yet the bible was a collection of works by those that followed him that you say misunderstood what he said. Your constantly going in circles. Why should god tell Mohammed that it was ok for christians as long as they followed a book that was wrong from the start. Accordding to you now no bible was ever correct.

[MasterAdnin]

Yet in anthoer thread you say we should follow the original bible. Yet the bible was a collection of works by those that followed him that you say misunderstood what he said. Your constantly going in circles. Why should god tell Mohammed that it was ok for christians as long as they followed a book that was wrong from the start. Accordding to you now no bible was ever correct.

Again, the Old Testament is part of the Bible is it not? Christians should follow un-edited versions of the Old Testament.

So as I said, according to Christians who believe he did say he was the son of God, anyone who deneis this is denying Jesus. Thus if one initiates a religion that denies Jesus and thus leads people away from the true nature of God, this person is an "anti-christ" of sorts.

True, but Muhammad(PBUH) only denied what the people had written, not what Jesus(PBUH) had truly said, which in Islamic beliefs was that he never claimed he was the son of God. Also, Muhammad(PBUH) never said that Jesus(PBUH) was not a legitament prophet, only what the people wrote down after his death was incorret because they mis-interperated his words.


Salaam,
Adnan