View Poll Results: Which Hellenistic faction do you prefer?

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  • Seleucids

    47 19.75%
  • Macedon

    40 16.81%
  • Ptolemies

    13 5.46%
  • Epirus

    17 7.14%
  • Pontus

    16 6.72%
  • Sparta

    43 18.07%
  • Athens

    21 8.82%
  • Rhodos

    3 1.26%
  • Syracuse

    10 4.20%
  • Pergamum

    11 4.62%
  • Bactria

    12 5.04%
  • Knossos

    1 0.42%
  • one of Seleucid clients

    2 0.84%
  • other (if I forgot)

    2 0.84%
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    Default Which Hellenistic faction do you prefer?

    We know all Hellenistic factions. Which do you prefer?

    Seleucids
    Macedon
    Ptolemies
    Epirus
    Pontus
    Sparta
    Athens
    Rhodos
    Syracuse
    Pergamum
    Bactria
    Knossos
    Seleucid client
    other (if I forgot)

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    Default Re: Which Hellenistic faction do you prefer?

    Seleucids ofcourse
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    Pontus isn't Hellenistic faction.
    also seleucid client.
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    Default Re: Which Hellenistic faction do you prefer?

    Quote Originally Posted by ariyan View Post
    Pontus isn't Hellenistic faction.
    also seleucid client.
    What are you talking about ? They're hellenistic with eastern influence?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Attalus Soter View Post
    What are you talking about ? They're hellenistic with eastern influence?
    Do not try to show them Hellenistic faction.
    Pontus is a eastern faction.Persian&Greek mixture
    and seleucid client,they have their own language and culture(Persia Media and Sagartia),They only give tribute to seleucid.

    otherwise,they weren't in game as faction.
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    Default Re: Which Hellenistic faction do you prefer?

    Quote Originally Posted by ariyan View Post
    Do not try to show them Hellenistic faction.
    Pontus is a eastern faction.Persian&Greek mixture
    and seleucid client,they have their own language and culture(Persia Media and Sagartia),They only give tribute to seleucid.

    otherwise,they weren't in game as faction.
    They are hellenistic, I don't know what what they say in iran
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hellenistic_period
    http://www.academia.edu/1445507/Stud...rcu_doctorate_
    http://core.kmi.open.ac.uk/display/5920319

    They're hellenistic with eastern influence

    do you believe it now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Attalus Soter View Post
    They are hellenistic, I don't know what what they say in iran
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hellenistic_period
    http://www.academia.edu/1445507/Stud...rcu_doctorate_
    http://core.kmi.open.ac.uk/display/5920319

    They're hellenistic with eastern influence

    do you believe it now?
    No, i would rather say they are eastern (persian) who adopted many aspect of the hellenistic culture and posed as champions of hellenism later against Rome.
    They definitely stressed their persian origins when dealing with their eastern subjects and the eastern states.

    They are a mix and they used both of their identities (hellenic and persian).

    But i don't think defining them as hellenistic with eastern influence is accurate, even if i agree that they were for a large part a hellenistic state thanks to their adoption of greek culture, greek "philoï" and inter-marriage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ariyan View Post
    Do not try to show them Hellenistic faction.
    Pontus is a eastern faction.Persian&Greek mixture
    and seleucid client,they have their own language and culture(Persia Media and Sagartia),They only give tribute to seleucid.

    otherwise,they weren't in game as faction.
    Persian&Greek mixture, meaning Hellenistic faction, just like the Seleucids. The Pontians were Anatolian people, with a Persian ruling class and Greek influences from the cities of the Pontic coast.
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    Default Re: Which Hellenistic faction do you prefer?

    Quote Originally Posted by ariyan View Post
    Do not try to show them Hellenistic faction.
    Pontus is a eastern faction.Persian&Greek mixture
    and seleucid client,they have their own language and culture(Persia Media and Sagartia),They only give tribute to seleucid.

    otherwise,they weren't in game as faction.
    Pontus was Hellenistic before the Persians arrived...
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    Have to go with Athens, coolest name, best colours IMO and ofcourse awesome Navy and hitsory

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    Default Re: Which Hellenistic faction do you prefer?

    ariyan, Pontus is Hellenistic faction. Are you fan of Persian/Parthians? If yes, I understand why you think that Pontus isn't Hellenistic. It is not objective. Pontian culture was Hellenistic and some regional elements. Villagers are eastern (In Seleucids too) but citizens adopted Hellenistic clothes, architecture etc. Pontians used Greek style army - phalangites, hoplites, companions. They used Hellenistic cataphracts probably, similar to Seleucids, not Parthians.

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    Voted Macedon. Bactria is a close second though.

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    Pontus for sure... and they are hella Hellenistic... even Hellenic to some extent as they used to be a colony of Hellenic Greece as well as a state of Hellenistic power.

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    Epirus, followed closely by Macedon.
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    Default Re: Which Hellenistic faction do you prefer?

    In Rome 1 Pontus was eastern culture faction, but it was a big mistake. In mods like EB, RS2 Pontus is Hellenistic faction. It will be in Rome 2, too.

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    Default Re: Which Hellenistic faction do you prefer?

    Athens first, followed by bactria ( can't vote unfortunately)

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    I'd have said Pontus are definatley Greek, obviously not 100% greek, but style of battle, equipment and troops is definately Greek influence.

    Just completed a year long course on them during their golden age. Its Athens for me.


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    Default Re: Which Hellenistic faction do you prefer?

    Epirus, followed closely by Pontus. Pryuss and Mithradates are two of my favourite generals of antiquity...and Pontus is definitely a hellenic power, what with their hellenic culture and hellenic armies and what not...

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    Pontus is definitely Germanic ^^

    Voted Ptolemies as I think that one will be most interesting. Macedon is a good second.

    Of the Greek dlc I find Epirus most interesting because of their proximity to rome.

    Furthermore, Knossos could be fun to play, just sit on the island and don't give a damn on what the other factions do.

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    Selucids of course.
    They have the best hellenistic unit roster.

    Anyway, i've got a question. Will Athens have Phalanx type units? (like Macedon)

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