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    Default Greek Cultures Pack - please edgeucate me

    There are lots of spear units indicated in the unit lists for these factions. Does anyone know or can anyone intelligently speculate if they might have access to secondary edged weapons, for example swords?

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    they had short swords in rome 1. that's all I can say.

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    Is the "please edgeucate me" part of the title a joke? Sure hope so.

    And I don't know if spear units have swords.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -=PHX=-Hades View Post
    Is the "please edgeucate me" part of the title a joke? Sure hope so.

    And I don't know if spear units have swords.
    Lol. I hope so too

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    I need to educate you how to spell Educate! I hope the hoplites will have swords.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrow2daknee View Post
    I need to educate you how to spell Educate! I hope the hoplites will have swords.
    I was 'edging my bets that people would get the joke. Backfired on me like a Wile E Coyote trap

    But yes I hope they have swords.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrow2daknee View Post
    I need to educate you how to spell Educate! I hope the hoplites will have swords.
    They should have. It was the close combat weapon of a hoplite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oplitis View Post
    They should have. It was the close combat weapon of a hoplite.
    Very close combat to be more correct.
    Empire II and Medieval III pls

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    In the 300 movie, the Spartans had swords as well, so I guess the "Spartan heroes" will be equipped in the same way!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manuel I Komnenos View Post
    In the 300 movie, the Spartans had swords as well, so I guess the "Spartan heroes" will be equipped in the same way!
    Yah, 300 movie... made of a magnificent historical accuracy.
    They did not supposed to be shirtless too....

    Anyway, Greeks had 3 type of sword:
    - The Xiphos, a small sword with double edged
    - The Falcata, a small sword with one edge
    - The Kopis, a sort of Falcata, with a curved edge.

    I don't know wich one was used by Hoplites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by General Grievous View Post
    Yah, 300 movie... made of a magnificent historical accuracy.
    They did not supposed to be shirtless too....
    Movie? It was a historical documentary mate.
    Under the patronage of Emperor Maximinus Thrax
    "Steps to be taken in case Russia should be forced out of war considered. Various movements [of ] troops to and from different fronts necessary to meeting possible contingencies discussed. Conference also weighed political, economic, and moral effect both upon Central and Allied powers under most unfavorable aspect from Allied point of view. General conclusions reached were necessity for adoption of purely defensive attitude on all secondary fronts and withdrawing surplus troops for duty on western front. By thus strengthening western front [those attending] believed Allies could hold until American forces arrive in numbers sufficient to gain ascendancy."
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    Default Re: Greek Cultures Pack - please edgeucate me

    I'm here to give the edgeucation.
    What seems the matter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by omzdog View Post
    I'm here to give the edgeucation.
    What seems the matter?
    What seems to be the officer problem?

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    The picture that shows the heroes of Sparta doesn't show a secondary weapon. But the Spartan hoplites in Rome 1 didn't show a secondary weapon and they had swords for close encounters.
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    Default Re: Greek Cultures Pack - please edgeucate me

    Hoplites are equipped with both the weapons mentioned.

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    We are edging closer to a solution. Can CA confirm secondary weapons for the spear units?

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    It depends if hoplites are considered a seperate unit to normal spearman. From what i've seen they use the same couple of animations which leads me to think that they will be considered spearmen, using only the spear. A phalanx unit might do though.


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    Default Re: Greek Cultures Pack - please edgeucate me

    Secondary weapon for phalanxes, definately. But i doubt spear units and hoplites will have secondary weapons. Spear units are counters for cavalry and not a counter for infantry. This has been the norm throughout all TW-games. Some exclusive units may have it, though.

    arrows, swords, spears and axes has different attack attributes which will rarely be mixed within a unit for balancing purposes.
    Last edited by HusKatten; July 29, 2013 at 05:22 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HusKatten View Post
    But i doubt spear units and hoplites will have secondary weapons.
    See that is exactly what I am concerned about because the entire Greek rosta seems to be spear only. I'm concerned this means that Greek armies are gimped when facing other infantry armies that are using edged weapons, swords, axes etc...

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    Im positive that hoplites stand against heavy infantry though, their probable high defence will at least enable you to pin the enemy line.

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