Civil Wars and End Game

**rudthemighty** · July 28, 2013, 10:04 AM

Alright I was playing the Rise of the Samurai and was extremely annoyed by the return of the horrible Realm Divide system. It simply kills diplomacy and makes you wonder why you spared you allies / vassals; should have steam rolled them in the first place.

Now back to Rome 2. A roman civil war is expected but I just hope its not as horrible as before where all diplomacy options simply die off.

Here are a few thoughts on the end game.

> Don't kill off diplomacy! Previous actions should matter! Dont let people arbitrarily declare war on you!

> The stupid AI should know when its beat. I have had it with AI factions not accepting peace with just one region and no armies against a superior force.

> Just cause its the end game, dont make all armies stacks of elite units. Your veterans should matter.

> Barbarian / eastern factions deserve their own unique end game scenarios.

What about your thoughts about the end game specifically?

**Heinz Guderian** · July 28, 2013, 10:13 AM

Some people would rather die than be conquered.

**rudthemighty** · July 28, 2013, 10:20 AM

Originally Posted by Heinz Guderian

Some people would rather die than be conquered.

Ok that makes sense for (say) major factions. But atleast the minor factions should know that "my opponent outnumbers me several times over and is vastly richer, it would be wise to sue for peace now and fight another die."

**Sherm** · July 28, 2013, 10:27 AM

Yeah, I hope that the game don't do at certaion pont a "Tabula Rasa" of the player diplomacy.

I have to say that in Shogun II, is possible mantain some alliance during the realm divide, but is very difficult.