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    I guess we'll wait and see...or we can all keep yelling at eachother about AI and how game development works.

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    Hmm, This Warscape game engine was developed for ETW and the gunpowder era.
    So it may give the BAI programmer some headaches with a melee based period?
    Plus there seems to be a change in the way battlemaps are generated, that and giant cities may give way to pathway issues.
    Also I guess capture points have been introduced to help the BAI with reference points.
    Given this is a new game which is not generating battlefields or cities like previous games. CA are in experimental mode with this baby.
    So they will be trying to the last minute to get things right.
    If they succeed then the BAI programmer should be lauded.
    If they fail, Hmm perhaps a public humiliation will be his or her lot.
    That I shall leave to the other development team members of CA as its their reputations on the line.

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    You know what would calm all of this down? A video of a full unscripted battle showing off the ai and all that. no fancy narrating or editing, just raw footage of somebody playing the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greve Af Göteborg View Post
    You know what would calm all of this down? A video of a full unscripted battle showing off the ai and all that. no fancy narrating or editing, just raw footage of somebody playing the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greve Af Göteborg View Post
    You know what would calm all of this down? A video of a full unscripted battle showing off the ai and all that. no fancy narrating or editing, just raw footage of somebody playing the game.
    Who knows, maybe we will get something like that soon. The people who were invited to the Rome event will post their videos and reviews on the footage they played sometime next week. At least that's what Lionheartx claimed here a couple of days ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greve Af Göteborg View Post
    You know what would calm all of this down? A video of a full unscripted battle showing off the ai and all that. no fancy narrating or editing, just raw footage of somebody playing the game.
    You must be joking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greve Af Göteborg View Post
    You know what would calm all of this down? A video of a full unscripted battle showing off the ai and all that. no fancy narrating or editing, just raw footage of somebody playing the game.
    Since I suspect the AI is not going to be "impressive," by any means? Just like with every other Total War game, at launch, that I can recall. I really doubt CA would, ever, even consider doing this.
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    Its like a dealership showing you the nice shiny car, showing you all the cool car videos, and then your like great can I test drive it? Dealer, No sorry we don't do that just sign here Ill take your money and then you can drive it off. Just saying..
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    Quote Originally Posted by osros View Post
    Its like a dealership showing you the nice shiny car, showing you all the cool car videos, and then your like great can I test drive it? Dealer, No sorry we doing do that just sign here Ill take your money and then you can drive it off. Just saying..
    Thats why there should be a day one demo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrow2daknee View Post
    Thats why there should be a day one demo.
    They officially declined that. And I don't hope for a demo that is given a good impression. However I think the pre sales aren't going well according to steam shop stats but there are so many ways to obtain it of course.
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    I don't and will never thrust this testers nor any magazine. They can say what they want and it's far too clear it's fooling all of you. The best tester is each people who can really see the final game. For me I will take it and will play myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emperor Domitianus View Post
    I don't and will never thrust this testers nor any magazine. They can say what they want and it's far too clear it's fooling all of you. The best tester is each people who can really see the final game. For me I will take it and will play myself.
    Oh I've already bought it myself. But complaining about the AI being bad in a Total War game is like complaining about the sun rising. What does get annoying though? Is CA saying with each new game that the AI has been completely redone or vastly improved. There was a comment during the Angry Joe interview where the dev said the AI was actually beating them and I had a flashback to Empire or Medieval II. Couldn't remember which one it was, where they had made the same remark.

    They may not be lying, exactly, but they sure are stretching the out of the truth.

    They might as well be winking at the camera when they say those things because its not like we don't know better, by now.
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    Everybody that is worried about the ai because of this article are forgetting that they only got to play on the easiest difficulty.

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    People are worried of everything this stupid article says. For me I have stopped reading magazines since ages. I prefer test myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emperor Domitianus View Post
    People are worried of everything this stupid article says. For me I have stopped reading magazines since ages. I prefer test myself.
    Agreed, I will save the judging and the "OMG THIS GAME SUCKS" threads till after I play the game. This article proves nothing.

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    I`m not worried about the 55 euro`s i spend on my pre-order. Ive spend more money on other crappy games that did not deliver on promises. But what i fear most is a TW game with my favorite setting not doing what it is supposed to be doing. Like having an AI at least as good as the last game (shogun 2)

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    Quote Originally Posted by rohirrimelf View Post
    ​I`m not worried about the 55 euro`s i spend on my pre-order. Ive spend more money on other crappy games that did not deliver on promises. But what i fear most is a TW game with my favorite setting not doing what it is supposed to be doing. Like having an AI at least as good as the last game (shogun 2)
    Well the OP's translation does say the AI "hasn't improved much" implying it is more or less the same as shogun 2 . Which is not all that impressive but it is acceptable, to me at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emperor Domitianus View Post
    People are worried of everything this stupid article says. For me I have stopped reading magazines since ages. I prefer test myself.
    So do I but 55 € worst case price for a pig in a poke is very pricy test drive I'd rather save +100 € and rent a Porsche for a day. That's at least more fun than doing fence wars here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emperor Domitianus View Post
    People are worried of everything this stupid article says. For me I have stopped reading magazines since ages. I prefer test myself.
    No people may be worried about:

    no demo (first time ever in Tw) +
    non-scripted battle still to see (first time ever in TW in just a month from release) +
    ai improvements just "expressed verbally" from CA +
    first preview not much "stimulating" about ai =

    Yes, I wouldn't call "crazy" someone a little worried about... but also yes we have to wait and see our own, but not before we buy the game this time....
    Last edited by T-Duke; July 27, 2013 at 10:01 AM.

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    Well on a happy note. Not long now! Hooray.

    P.S Even if i have to wait for patches/mods I am not bothered because i'll occupy myself solving any tech probs that users on here have. (oh and new gpu+screen needed).

    Been some good arguements back and forth on this forum Rome2 is going to be a bit of a milestone I think because it will tell us one way or another who has been right about things over the years and will give us all time to sit back and reflect.

    My gut feeling and I hope I am right is it's the last outing of Warscape. (i'd actually pay £5 more if they confirmed a new engine).
    Last edited by Totalheadache; July 27, 2013 at 09:29 AM.

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