Campaign Gameplay Gets Ridiculously Huge Screenshot Treatment

**sebastiaan1973** · July 29, 2013, 05:13 AM

Oh man, what a Campaign screenshot. Getting wet overhere

**General Maximus** · July 29, 2013, 06:44 AM

Originally Posted by sebastiaan1973

Oh man, what a Campaign screenshot. Getting wet overhere

I doubt people laugh when they get wet.

**ashbery76** · July 29, 2013, 06:44 AM

Originally Posted by josak

Is it just me or does the campaign map look really... plain? Where are all the animals, trade routes, etc? It just looks like empty space minus the cities and units walking about.

I see trade routes and animals so maybe get an eye test.

**MemnonOfRhodes** · July 29, 2013, 06:54 AM

Originally Posted by ashbery76

I see trade routes and animals so maybe get an eye test.

Now that you mention it, what is a camel doing in Greece?
I want my mules

**simonsimons** · July 29, 2013, 02:10 PM

Originally Posted by josak

Is it just me or does the campaign map look really... plain? Where are all the animals, trade routes, etc? It just looks like empty space minus the cities and units walking about.

Yep, it just you. Looks amazing to me.

**Huberto** · July 29, 2013, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by josak

Is it just me or does the campaign map look really... plain? Where are all the animals, trade routes, etc? It just looks like empty space minus the cities and units walking about.

Nope it's not just you. Many have noticed and already written about this. Syria, for example looks completely barren. Maybe it will get the tumbleweed treatment like Fallout: New Vegas.

**General Maximus** · July 30, 2013, 03:17 AM

Originally Posted by josak

Is it just me or does the campaign map look really... plain? Where are all the animals, trade routes, etc? It just looks like empty space minus the cities and units walking about.

You are not alone. Aside from the poor quality coastlines and excessive spam of cliffs, the map from inside itself feels really empty.

**General Maximus** · July 29, 2013, 11:25 AM

Exactly. What is a camel doing in Greece?

**J-Plague** · July 29, 2013, 12:23 PM

Is it just me, or does it seem like objects on land will cast shadows on the sea, but the landmass itself doesnt?
Edit: Also really curious what the heavily armored characters with no troops are. That I've spotted Rome and Macedonia both have one.

**Stath's** · July 29, 2013, 12:45 PM

Just saw the camel where Corinth should have been.

Nice.

**Stath's** · July 29, 2013, 12:51 PM

Merge with the above please.

Do we know if this the final form of the campaign map? Nothing else will be added?

It looks so empty it makes you sad. I guess even the biggest defenders of CA here should acknowledge that.

**Cyrus Da Great** · July 30, 2013, 07:41 PM

Loving these pictures.

**Cyrus the Virus** · July 31, 2013, 03:49 AM

Intersting to the see what's going on in the distance. Thanks!

**YuriVII** · July 31, 2013, 04:04 PM

I noticed some inland water routes, as well with the Nile in an earlier screenshot. Are there navigable rivers in RTWII? Do you do it with the Danube/Rhine? That would be very awesome and it looks like they are doing it, but i never got an solid definitive answer.

**vietanh797** · July 31, 2013, 04:44 PM

Originally Posted by YuriVII

I noticed some inland water routes, as well with the Nile in an earlier screenshot. Are there navigable rivers in RTWII? Do you do it with the Danube/Rhine? That would be very awesome and it looks like they are doing it, but i never got an solid definitive answer.

CA already confirmed that both Nile and Danube and navigable

**General Maximus** · July 31, 2013, 05:25 PM

Danube being navigable is good, since historically Roman Empire had a huge independent fleet set aside from their giant navy just to patrol the Danube. This continued until the time of the great emperor Heraclius and the Arab invasions, more than half a millenia later from the game's time.

But...Nile?

**YuriVII** · July 31, 2013, 05:41 PM

Yeah Egyptians used the Nile as the main highway of the country. Why walk through the desert to a town when you can take a boat trip? Rivers have never been very well thought out in any TW games. They did it in a few mods (like Third Age) and Vlad's Rusichi, and Last Kingdom and it seemed to work pretty well.

They aren't doing the Rhine? I mean if you are doing the Danube you may as well do the Rhine.

**Cyrus the Virus** · August 01, 2013, 04:44 AM

Originally Posted by YuriVII

They aren't doing the Rhine? I mean if you are doing the Danube you may as well do the Rhine.

Agreed. It is not of less importance and well used.

**General Maximus** · July 31, 2013, 07:13 PM

Rhine should be navigable as well in my opinion, although I pray not as utterly ugly visibly as the Nile they have done.

But still, Rhine was the one of the primary reasons of the collapse of the Roman Empire. They just couldn't hold the fortifications, even after the east-west divide. And then the Rhine froze in winter, allowing the barbarians (specially Franks and Goths), who were pushed westwards by the Huns, to freely march into the Roman territory, and they were just not prepared for it.

At the same time, Eastern Roman Empire kept the borders perfectly strong, patrolled the Danube with their huge fleet, and bribed away all invaders (including Huns) except the nearly-equally powerful Sassanid Empire.