Seeking the counsel of fellow Gallic / Celtic lovers
Ok, we’ve seen a bit of what CA has planned for the Gauls now. The Arverni Faction and map layout. There are a few minor changes I personally would like to see but I’m interested to see what other Gallophiles thought:
Recommended Changes for CA:
Suessiones ('Six clans'): Replace the Treverii. These guys were the leaders of the Belgae confederacy in the 3rd century during their struggle with the Carnutes and Aedui. I’d like to see these guys replace the Treverii (who were further east) as a third Belgae faction.(see banner below)
Volcae ('Wolves'): These guys need to have their iconic wolf (as depicted on numerous artifacts) used as their emblem.(see banner below)
Pictones: These guys would be better served with their one hand emblem.
Iceni: Tri-moon emblem (see banner below)
Atrebate: Change (see banner below)
Nervii: Change (see banner below)
Helvetii: Change (see banner below)
Insubres: Change (see banner below)
Briganti: To a Bull
Osimisii: Replace the Namnetes. Disappointed no Veneti but I can appreciate CA have chosen the Namnetes to save confusion with the Veneti of Italy, but I’d prefer to see another sea faring tribe in an area known for such. I’d suggest the Osimisii, a larger tribe than that of the Namnetes.
Volcae Trocmi Banner replaces the current Galation one.
Senones: These were largest of the Cisalpine Gauls and sackers of Rome. I’d like to see them included somehow, either as a marauding band or occupiers of Ariminum. (see banner below)
The following are banners produced some years ago using material cultural / archeology.
Banners: Some are not too bad (ie Aedui having a horse is quite apt given the significant worship of Epona throughout their territory, Carnutes having the depiction of a horned helm). Others ..well hmm. What do you guys think, where can improvements be made?
Every single one of the Celtic units needs a special attack called 'Drink magick potion'.
On a more serious note, I doubt something this scale will be impletended by CA, but maybe by Mods, if Rome II will be Modable.
Suessiones ('Six clans'): Replace the Treverii. These guys were the leaders of the Belgae confederacy in the 3rd century during their struggle with the Carnutes and Aedui. I’d like to see these guys replace the Treverii (who were further east) as a third Belgae faction.(see banner below)
Volcae ('Wolves'): These guys need to have their iconic wolf (as depicted on numerous artifacts) used as their emblem.(see banner below)
Pictones: These guys would be better served with their one hand emblem.
Iceni: Tri-moon emblem (see banner below)
Atrebate: Change (see banner below)
Nervii: Change (see banner below)
Helvetii: Change (see banner below)
Insubres: Change (see banner below)
Briganti: To a Bull
Osimisii: Replace the Namnetes. Disappointed no Veneti but I can appreciate CA have chosen the Namnetes to save confusion with the Veneti of Italy, but I’d prefer to see another sea faring tribe in an area known for such. I’d suggest the Osimisii, a larger tribe than that of the Namnetes.
Volcae Trocmi Banner replaces the current Galation one.
Senones: These were largest of the Cisalpine Gauls and sackers of Rome. I’d like to see them included somehow, either as a marauding band or occupiers of Ariminum. (see banner below)
You have not made any arguments as to why these should be made into reality, other than "I want it like this" and "look at my banners from imageshack!". Since in reality these changes are just modifying faction names I simply don't care. I'll leave that to a modder after the game is made to see if it is worth having.
Banners: Some are not too bad...What do you guys think, where can improvements be made?
Your banners are terrible and would make a poor contribution to the game: The colours are too similar and so are the designs- most of them are brown and have loops, if you're lucky the designs use a dull gold rather than dull grey. Good luck distinguishing which is which in battle mode, or in the campaign map.
My recommendation is to simplify them. The ones you see in the Rome2 campaign planner emphasize contrast of colour and icons so they are easy to distinguish from eachother, even with similar colour shades. Just adjusting the lightness of some of those brown banners will make a huge difference.
Oh, and make emblems, not banners. Visuals is key, not heraldry.
Good point. We haven't seen any mention of Gaesatae.
Originally Posted by daelin4
You have not made any arguments..
.. Please read what I have posted. The post is specifically addressed to fellow Celtophiles .. the numerous members of this community that I respect (and there are quite a few) that have a keen interest and knowledge of the subject matter. It is their counsel / assistence / ideas I seek. I just don't have the time to argue why I need to argue, sry.
Originally Posted by daelin4
.. don't care .. your banners are terrible .. poor contribution to the game ..
Stressful week perchance?
Originally Posted by daelin4
My recommendation is to simplify them. The ones you see in the Rome2 campaign planner emphasize contrast of colour and icons so they are easy to distinguish from eachother, even with similar colour shades. Just adjusting the lightness of some of those brown banners will make a huge difference. Oh, and make emblems, not banners. Visuals is key, not heraldry.There, you have my thoughts and opinions.
.. now was that so hard? I tend to completely agree and have started working on simplified variants adopting CA's theme... but I'm extremely time poor atm hence the 'call to arms' for those like minded.
GAUL / CELTS - Desired Changes
Pictones 
Allobroge 
Parisii 
Senones 
Helvetii 
Eburones 
Insubres 
Volcae Tectosages 
Menapii 
Suessiones 
Atrebate 
Nervii 
Selgovae 
Setantii 
Carvetii 
Iceni 
Volcae Trocmi 
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Re: GAUL / CELTS - Desired Changes
Originally Posted by PSYCHO V
.. Please read what I have posted. The post is specifically addressed to fellow Celtophiles .. the numerous members of this community that I respect (and there are quite a few) that have a keen interest and knowledge of the subject matter. It is their counsel / assistence / ideas I seek. I just don't have the time to argue why I need to argue, sry.
