3 families for carthage confirmed, which one will you take?

[Mary The Quene]

We've seen the 3 families for carthage in latest video


Hannonids
Barcids
Magonids

which one is yours?

[Totalheadache]

Barcids!

Barca! Barca! Barca! Forca!

[SamueleD]

Barca, of course!

[torongill]

Who else if not them?

[nomercysniper]

No idea, i have a notion one will be expansionist in general, one for africa and one for economics.

So the general expansionists most likely.

[Darth_Revan]

Barcids!! I care not for an expansive empire, I just want to spill Roman blood!

[Raikou]

The Barcids

The family of the Barca, the Thunderbolt, has produced many great captains of the Carthaginian states, any famous war-leader on land or at sea likely hails from this family. The strength of the Barcids tends towards the military rather than the political, so no true Barcid would aim for autokrator without a sizeable mercenary force at his command. The Barcids claim descent from vain and feckless Paris of Troy, the youngest son of Priam; family traits tend to be vanity, narcissism and a fine regard for the beautiful and the best things in life.



The Hannonids

The Hannonids make a great, public show of their devotion to the gods - most particularly to Dagon and Tanit. Hannonid children who show promise are sent to train for the priesthood or the navy thus heaping glory on the gods of Carthage (and the family) with holy sacrifice or gold gained through shrewd dealing. The Hannonids have a bitter and long-standing rivalry with the Barcids, who they see as brainless, impious thugs utterly unsuitable for public office. The Barcids, meanwhile, see the Hannonids as even more vicious and scheming than it is entirely seemly for a Carthaginian to appear.

[Rhomphaiaphoros]

The one with the bonuses that best suit what I decide to aim for in that particular campaign, of course. So, I can't really vote yet, though I have a hunch that it's going to be the Barcids which I end up choosing...

Regarding the families of Rome, I'll definitely pick the Julii for my first Roman campaign. Although the Cornelii's bonuses are the most appealing to me, they can be saved for my second Roman play-through. But in my first campaign, I just want to march north and utterly crush all of the over-hyped germanic tribes - and the Julii should be the perfect choice for putting and keeping the barbarous scum in their proper, subjugated state.

[Revan The Great]

It's pretty hard not to play as the Barcids, to be honest. I voted for them.

Going historically, the Barcids wanted to concentrate on expansion in Spain and an aggressive foreign policy while the Hannonids were more isolationist, wanted to stay in Africa and expand there. According to the Let's Play, the Magonids seem to want to concentrate on Sicily, and other Mediterranean islands. So perhaps we can infer some bonuses from this.

• Barcids: Better generals, conversion bonus to, or better morale fighting against Barbarians (particularly Iberians), huge diplomatic penalty with the Romans to represent Hannibal and his father's intense hatred of Rome, and the blood pact swearing to always be their enemy.
• Hannonids: Less unrest in African provinces, more unrest abroad. Maybe some sort of population/developmental growth bonuses to African cities. Increased income from farms, mines, etc. but less from trade.
• Magonids: Possibly better diplomatic relations with Rome, better naval units, increase bonuses to trade.

Just guesses on my part though.

[Leggy]

For the glory of Barca!

[ShadowMassa]

Barca! of course...

How does this 3 family feature work exactly ? Like Rome I ? The 3 families are allied 3 factions on the map or just a single faction with special traits or perks if a family is selected to lead the faction ?

[jsully16]

Barca! of course...

How does this 3 family feature work exactly ? Like Rome I ? The 3 families are allied 3 factions on the map or just a single faction with special traits or perks if a family is selected to lead the faction ?

Seems like, for both Rome and Carthage, you have 2 faction traits no matter what family you choose. Then you have three specific traits depending on what family you choose. I also believe that choosing one family doesn't clear the other two families from the game. They'll still be involved in the campaign, under your faction, they just aren't entirely controlled by you and will work against you at times.

[ShadowMassa]

Seems like, for both Rome and Carthage, you have 2 faction traits no matter what family you choose. Then you have three specific traits depending on what family you choose. I also believe that choosing one family doesn't clear the other two families from the game. They'll still be involved in the campaign, under your faction, they just aren't entirely controlled by you and will work against you at times.

Thank you! I didn't like vanilla Rome 1 representation. The 3 families of Rome would be like allied factions on the campaign map.

[Emperor Domitianus]

Barcids but I will give also the others a try.

[Semper_Fidelis]

I don't know who the Magonids are. It doesn't matter anyway because I'm going to pick Barcids right off the bat.

[Jokern]

I don't know who the Magonids are. It doesn't matter anyway because I'm going to pick Barcids right off the bat.

The Magonid was the royal dynasty of Carthage before it became a republic.

[daelin4]

I don't know who the Magonids are. It doesn't matter anyway because I'm going to pick Barcids right off the bat.

They seem to represent the pro-Magonids which were oppose to the Barcid faction that supported Hamilcar and his sin Hannibal in their endeavours to expand into realms close to Roman sphere of influence, and of course preferred not going to war against Rome. They also preferred expanding into North Africa while the Barcids preferred confrontation with Rome and taking their colonies, including lost lands in Sicily. Practically polar opposites to eachother.

[Raikou]

They seem to represent the pro-Magonids which were oppose to the Barcid faction that supported Hamilcar and his sin Hannibal in their endeavours to expand into realms close to Roman sphere of influence, and of course preferred not going to war against Rome. They also preferred expanding into North Africa while the Barcids preferred confrontation with Rome and taking their colonies, including lost lands in Sicily. Practically polar opposites to eachother.

Sounds like I'll be playing as the Magonids to avoid confrontation with Rome until she grows into a formidable opponent and then LET THE BLOODY MEDITERRANEAN CONFLICT BEGIN !!!

[jsully16]

Barca because Hannibal is my favorite ancient general and Neymar is my favorite soccer player.

Yes, soccer. You'll get over it.

[Jester]

Barca because Hannibal is my favorite ancient general and Neymar is my favorite soccer player.

Yes, soccer. You'll get over it.

if you have any love for football, you wont call it soccer..... you. just. dont.



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whatever family is best for economical victory. i d really love to play Carthago like this. including a vast naval force