Confirmed: Pyrrhus will be alive

[GNU07]

Confirmed at the other forum. Fans of him may rejoice

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http://forums.totalwar.com/showthrea...-R2-Wikipedia?

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Posted the link. Don't know if i am allowed to do it though, if not, mods please remove it

[Archilles]

Link?!? No?!? Maybe?!?

[ariyan]

Pyrrhus does appear in the game.

He doesn't automatically die in the first turn, you can change his fate.

[ROYAL SIPHAI]

Where is confirmation?????

[Rhaegar1]

Thanks for the link

[ROYAL SIPHAI]

So basically he would be dead in 1 Turn. What do we do with 1 Turn sack the crap out of Rome?????

[GNU07]

So basically he would be dead in 1 Turn. What do we do with 1 Turn sack the crap out of Rome?????

Why? He died in a street fight IIRC, decapitated or something, not from disease or natural causes (although based on his profession, death in battle can also be considered a natural death). So you can protect him and go rape Rome.

[GNU07]

So basically he would be dead in 1 Turn. What do we do with 1 Turn sack the crap out of Rome?????

Why? He died in a street fight IIRC, decapitated or something, not from disease or natural causes (although based on his profession, death in battle can also be considered a natural death). So you can protect him and go rape Rome.

However, where was that information confirmed ?

I posted the link in the OP mate. In page 3 of the thread a CA official confirms it.

Sorry for DP

[Keyser]

Why? He died in a street fight IIRC, decapitated or something, not from disease or natural causes (although based on his profession, death in battle can also be considered a natural death). So you can protect him and go rape Rome.

Knocked inconscious by a tile launched at him by an elderly woman and then killed and decapitated by ennemy soldiers in the general streetfight. (At least that's the version i got, there are several of them iirc)

I posted the link in the OP mate. In page 3 of the thread a CA official confirms it.

Sorry for DP

Thanks ! I didn't saw the edit.

[Keyser]

You didn't get it.

He died in 272, in Argos, got a roof tile on the head (beware of an angry granny). But as it's an historical "accident", the games isn't scripted for him to die that year. That means he won't necessarilly (depend of what you or the AI do with him) die on the first turn.

However, where was that information confirmed ?

[Raikou]

Hm so I'm guessing Pyrrhus was a general of Epirus and was legendary like Hannibal or Alexander???

[Barristan Selmy]

Hm so I'm guessing Pyrrhus was a general of Epirus and was legendary like Hannibal or Alexander???

Yes, Pyrrhic victor might ring a bell.

[Rostam_e_Iran]

Yes, Pyrrhic victor might ring a bell.

Why all the praise? He failed miserably, was useless at treasury management, kept bouncing around to different places instead of strengthening them, hasty decisions which resulted in his tragic death and in the end his people suffered through death and slavery. Yet he is considered up there with Caesar and Alexander the great.....because.......he defeated the Romans a couple of times? please..... -.-

[TsarGrey]

Why all the praise? He failed miserably, was useless at treasury management, kept bouncing around to different places instead of strengthening them, hasty decisions which resulted in his tragic death and in the end his people suffered through death and slavery. Yet he is considered up there with Caesar and Alexander the great.....because.......he defeated the Romans a couple of times? please..... -.-

Hindsight is the best general.

[Manuel I Komnenos]

Why all the praise? He failed miserably, was useless at treasury management, kept bouncing around to different places instead of strengthening them, hasty decisions which resulted in his tragic death and in the end his people suffered through death and slavery. Yet he is considered up there with Caesar and Alexander the great.....because.......he defeated the Romans a couple of times? please..... -.-

Because he led what was arguably the most backwards and underpopulated region of Greece against Rome, defeated her in two battles and reached within a few kilometers from Rome. Then, after his return to Greece, he singlehandedly defeated Antigonus Gonatas and conquered Macedonia. Still, strategically he made many mistakes. he should have pushed on against Rome, but he thought his gains were consolidated. He also failed to consolidate his gains in Macedonia, allowing Antigonus Gonatas to recapture it shortly afterwards.

[RevanGK]

Because he led what was arguably the most backwards and underpopulated region of Greece against Rome, defeated her in two battles and reached within a few kilometers from Rome. Then, after his return to Greece, he singlehandedly defeated Antigonus Gonatas and conquered Macedonia. Still, strategically he made many mistakes. he should have pushed on against Rome, but he thought his gains were consolidated. He also failed to consolidate his gains in Macedonia, allowing Antigonus Gonatas to recapture it shortly afterwards.

I couldn't have said it better myself!

I'm glad that we'll get a chance to roleplay as Pyrros, even though it was fairly obvious since the announcement of the Greek States DLC...

[PR34TORI4N]

Why all the praise? He failed miserably, was useless at treasury management, kept bouncing around to different places instead of strengthening them, hasty decisions which resulted in his tragic death and in the end his people suffered through death and slavery. Yet he is considered up there with Caesar and Alexander the great.....because.......he defeated the Romans a couple of times? please..... -.-

While I agree with your initial statement, he is arguably one of the top 5 generals in ancient history. Have you even studied any of the battles this man fought? Epirus is one of the most underrated generals in antiquity. Viewing him strictly as a battlefield tactician he was a genius, no general can claim to have defeated both Rome and Carthage in multiple battles. His problem was lack of focus, and perhaps too much benevolence. If he had been a more focused man I think history would be very different. Rome may have never ended up being the superpower it later did.

I too totally forgot about Epirus until this thread. I may now play him first to learn the campaign a little. Gee, thanks OP!

[Basil II the B.S]

Why all the praise? He failed miserably, was useless at treasury management, kept bouncing around to different places instead of strengthening them, hasty decisions which resulted in his tragic death and in the end his people suffered through death and slavery. Yet he is considered up there with Caesar and Alexander the great.....because.......he defeated the Romans a couple of times? please..... -.-

Hannibal himself would later praise Pyrrhus as one of the best, if not the best general of the time and the records of his campaigns were considered a classic to study for Generals before we lost them.

[SpecialPH]

But if CA do let him live, then Tarentum (or whatever the region is called in R2) should be Epirote.

Quotes for Wikipedia:
"The same year, upon hearing the news of Pyrrhus's death, the Tarentinians surrendered to Rome."

and

"The Romans conquered the city in 272 BC, by treachery of the Greek soldiers, and demolished the defensive walls of the city. Thirty thousand of the Greek inhabitants were sold as slaves and many works of art were carried off to Rome."

[Hesus de bodemloze]

But if CA do let him live, then Tarentum (or whatever the region is called in R2) should be Epirote.

Quotes for Wikipedia:
"The same year, upon hearing the news of Pyrrhus's death, the Tarentinians surrendered to Rome."

and

"The Romans conquered the city in 272 BC, by treachery of the Greek soldiers, and demolished the defensive walls of the city. Thirty thousand of the Greek inhabitants were sold as slaves and many works of art were carried off to Rome."

The region was greek and the greeks from that city asked pyrrus to assist them against the Romans. No need to make the region Epirote.