spear/sword and/or spear/javelin armed units.

[TheTank]

i am curious if there are units in Rome 2 armed with spear/sword+shield and units armed with spear/javelin+shield?
From what I have seen there are only melee units armed with swords, clubs etc, spear units and skirmish/ranged units with javelins,arrows or stones?

It would be nice to have Greek Hoplites or for example germanic warriors armed with a sword which can be used as a secondary weapon.

[HusKatten]

Would also be interesring to see if Persian and Arabian light infantry will be equipped with both a spear and a bow. But i don't think we've seen anything of the sort yet.

[Captain W. Handberg]

Legionaries should totally have spears and swords, which was their usual equipment.

[babydoc]

Roman Pilum



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[Coxy]

Roman Pilum

Is 30 too old to go and buy some playmobil?

[Captain W. Handberg]

Playmobil <3

[O'Hea]

Phalangites and hoplites all have spears and swords, if that's what you mean.

[TheTank]

I know that Rome 2's legionairs throw pillums before charging the ennemy with Gladius sword.
The Teutoburger gameplay video showed this clearly but I never noticed the Egyptian phallaxes switched to sword in the Nile video.
I am also not aware of any statements of Lusted about this subject but I could missed it of course.

I hope for some spear/javelin+shield and spear/sword+shield units for the Barbarian factions like the Suebi and Averni.


Found this in Jack Lusted Exclusive content and dev chat.

Q. Will there be mixed main weapon types within a unit, say barbarians fighting with swords and spears in the same unit?

A. No. Whilst historically this may have occurred we split them into different units for gameplay reasons. Spears and swords have different stats in our game so we want them to be the main weapons for different units so the use for them is clearer and the player can tailor their army make up more depending on their play style.

So spear/sword (or another melee weapon) will not be in the game... :-(

[LordInvictus]

So spear/sword (or another melee weapon) will not be in the game... :-(

Jack meant that all soldiers in a unit will use the same weapon, instead of having a mix of weapons, like some are armed with swords, others armed with axes, etc. Units can still be armed with two weapons, like a spear and sword.

[Knight of Heaven]

Jack meant that all soldiers in a unit will use the same weapon, instead of having a mix of weapons, like some are armed with swords, others armed with axes, etc. Units can still be armed with two weapons, like a spear and sword.

Im pretty sure they are new to total war games, for them to ask such a thing..

Is 30 too old to go and buy some playmobil?

You can tell its for your kids, if you have any, or for your nephews

[TheTank]

Im pretty sure they are new to total war games, for them to ask such a thing..

You can tell its for your kids, if you have any, or for your nephews

I am not new to total war games.

[dom385]

I love almost everything I've seen about this game so far, but that playmobil centurion has more detail than the ones we've seen in rome 2 so far! I hope they were just placeholders and eventually they get the medal harness things and the transverse crest.

[Leggy]

Would be great if the Greek Hoplites were able to use both a dory and a xiphos.

[Maklodes]

i am curious if there are units in Rome 2 armed with spear/sword+shield and units armed with spear/javelin+shield?
From what I have seen there are only melee units armed with swords, clubs etc, spear units and skirmish/ranged units with javelins,arrows or stones?

It would be nice to have Greek Hoplites or for example germanic warriors armed with a sword which can be used as a secondary weapon.

I think thureophoroi and thorakitai had a couple of javelins, a spear, a sword, and a shield (thureos)? (Thorakitai also had a mail shirt I guess.)

[TheTank]

I think thureophoroi and thorakitai had a couple of javelins, a spear, a sword, and a shield (thureos)? (Thorakitai also had a mail shirt I guess.)

High status Germanic comitatus members would be similar armed like the the Thureophori or Thorakitai.
A barbed throwing spear, lance, sword and shield and very rarely a mailshirt as well.
I don't expect that some of CA units would have 3 weapon (primary,secondary and ranged) types.

It would be nice that Greek hoplites would have a xiphos sword in case the shieldwall/phalanx was broken by the enemy.
I hope the same with certain barbarian units as well.

[[N2]Kami]

That's system appear in S2TW with yari ashigaru carry sword for close quarter combat so why not in R2TW, at least for hoplite and phanlanx, their europe counter part.
But as I recall, higher tier troop armed with naginata and yari don't switch their weapon anymore. Am I right?

[O'Hea]

That's system appear in S2TW with yari ashigaru carry sword for close quarter combat so why not in R2TW, at least for hoplite and phanlanx, their europe counter part.
But as I recall, higher tier troop armed with naginata and yari don't switch their weapon anymore. Am I right?

This is how it's been since Rome 1. There's primary weapons and secondary weapons. The primaries have always been either missile weapons, or pikes/polearms for units that can use the phalanx. If you gave a unit a yari plus a katana secondary, they'd switch straight to the katana in almost all cases. It needs to be a weapon with long reach and a distance-maintaining formation.

[[N2]Kami]

Before S2TW they just switch.Now they carry

[O'Hea]

Before S2TW they just switch.Now they carry

They've improved it a lot since M2TW's insta-drop, but they still switch if the line breaks. I've got something like 300 hours in on this game so not much has gotten past me.

[DogSoldierSPQR]

All Hoplite units have the standard short spear, short sword and Hoplon shield. This will definitely be in the game.

When it comes to javelins and an actual fighting spear? Those Celts loved throwing things. Maybe their spearmen could have javelins too? I think maybe Roman javelinmen will have the Gladius as a back up but other javelinmen of other factions may just pull out and fight with one of their spears. Very hard thing to answer when it comes to javelinmen. Maybe they will just be given a sword relative to their faction.

When it comes to Jack's quote: He just meant like individuals having different standard primary weapons. That won't be the case. What you will see is, say, two Spartan hoplites in the same unit using different weapons but the weapons that they can possibly use are available to all hoplites in that unit. For example, one could be using the sword, other could be using the spear. Both of those weapons are available to anyone in that unit.