Roman Catapracts

**achilles-91** · July 18, 2013, 08:02 PM

is it true? that Romans will have Catapracts ?

**Lord Dakier** · July 18, 2013, 08:04 PM

I'd imagine late game once they've gotten some eastern territories sure.

**O'Hea** · July 18, 2013, 08:08 PM

I reckon they're mercenaries or AOR troops. I think Clibanarii (the Roman equivalent of cataphracts) came in sometime after the timeframe.

**achilles-91** · July 18, 2013, 08:10 PM

but arent Clibanarii founded AD ? this would be only few years AD (27 if im correct) . some guy told me they are in egypt trailer, and honestly, i really cant find them :S

**O'Hea** · July 18, 2013, 08:14 PM

Originally Posted by achilles-91

but arent Clibanarii founded AD ? this would be only few years AD (27 if im correct) . some guy told me they are in egypt trailer, and honestly, i really cant find them :S

I can't really find anything saying they were used before the 2nd century AD, which is why I think the supposed Roman cataphracts are actually a mercenary or local unit.

**sanbourne** · July 18, 2013, 08:25 PM

Why not? The romans used them, and just because it's a bit further in the timeline it shouldn't be out of the game. Just make it a late game unit. And maybe you have to control some regions and you can only produce them around there.

**O'Hea** · July 18, 2013, 08:33 PM

Originally Posted by sanbourne

Why not? The romans used them, and just because it's a bit further in the timeline it shouldn't be out of the game. Just make it a late game unit. And maybe you have to control some regions and you can only produce them around there.

They're more than 'a bit' down the timeline. Try ~400 years down.

**Grimbold** · July 18, 2013, 08:28 PM

Ohhhh boy this will be fun...

**sanbourne** · July 18, 2013, 08:32 PM

Anyway, from where this question comes from?

**jsully16** · July 19, 2013, 12:26 AM

I don't think this game goes past first century AD. I don't think the Romans started using cataphracts themselves until centuries later, after much exposure to them. The first time they faced cataphracts in battle was Carrhae, in 53 BC.

It'd be cool to have them in an expansion, if said expansion deals with the later Roman/Byzantine empires.

As it stands, however, the Roman legions will be deadly enough, and Rome doesn't need any cataphracts.

**Kinjo** · July 19, 2013, 01:02 AM

I hope they don't.

**Sun Tsu** · July 19, 2013, 01:05 AM

It does not fit the timeframe of the game, so i don't guess that they will be included..

**Maleventum** · July 19, 2013, 01:25 AM

the first "cataphracts" were Sarmatians recruited by Emperor Adrian : the "Ala I Gallorum et Pannoniorum catafractaria"

**ariyan** · July 19, 2013, 01:45 AM

wait for BI 2.

**~~Antiochus~~** · July 19, 2013, 02:53 AM

Romans shouldn't have cataphracts (I don't think about mercenaries but about standard Roman unit). They had them but in late period 4-5th century AD. Cataphracts should be in expansion pack - Barbarian Invasion 2 or Fall of the Roman Empire.

Example of Roman cataphracts in late Empire: