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    Default Will we be able to sabotage enemy traps, such as flaming balls of hay, on the field?

    So after watching the Nile battle video, a thought suddenly passed through my head.

    Wouldn't it be cool if you could use archers with Fire Arrows to prematurely ignite the flaming hay bales to sabotage them? Like order a couple of your archers to fire at the bales where they stood on the hill, causing them to ignite, burn & roll away long before your troops ever approached it?

    I mean, it seems reasonable(at least to me), and could offer a counter to ball users that did not include a long trek around the hill^^

    (I'd also love to set enemy wooden forts, houses & tents on fire during dry seasons in the event of a siege)
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    Default Re: Can we ignite the enemy's balls?

    love it, i hope this is in the game

    if not then it should be patched in at a later date
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    Default Re: Can we ignite the enemy's balls?

    Interesting idea. Also, siege weapons to hit them from long range too, maybe eliminating them altogether. It seems realistic but would it be included as for gameplay reasons this negates much of their effectiveness?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TotalWarker View Post
    Interesting idea. Also, siege weapons to hit them from long range too, maybe eliminating them altogether. It seems realistic but would it be included as for gameplay reasons this negates much of their effectiveness?
    Well, big rolling balls of hay tend to be surprise weapons. Or at least they've been used as surprise weapons in pretty much every single movie I've watched.

    If the enemy knows about them & has time to set archers or artillery on it, then chances are you probably did something wrong
    (also, if the enemy has more artillery than you, then chances are you probably don't want to be camping in the first place)
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    +Rep for the title!!

    I dont think it will be included as it would negate the point of "balls" somewhat, but you never know!

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    what would william wallace do ? Furthermore, I suppose we could if we had archers hit them with fire arrows but I don't know if CA implemented this particular mechanic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SinerAthin View Post
    So after watching the Nile battle video, a thought suddenly passed through my head.

    Wouldn't it be cool if you could use archers with Fire Arrows to prematurely ignite the flaming hay bales to sabotage them? Like order a couple of your archers to fire at the bales where they stood on the hill, causing them to ignite, burn & roll away long before your troops ever approached it?

    I mean, it seems reasonable(at least to me), and could offer a counter to ball users that did not include a long trek around the hill^^

    (I'd also love to set enemy wooden forts, houses & tents on fire during dry seasons in the event of a siege)
    Interesting question and yes would be nice. but they are supposed to be an ambush tool I guess , it was weird to see them right there in nice show on the battle of the video , ... didn't really makce much sense to me .

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    Default Re: Can we ignite the enemy's balls?

    you want to ignite them and for them to then roll down in your direction, right....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dictator Of The Roman Republic View Post
    you want to ignite them and for them to then roll down in your direction, right....
    No, he's saying can we as the attacker send fire arrows onto the balls, and have them ignite there and then and start some chaos on the defending ranks. But yes, the balls would still end up rolling down the hill 9 times out of 10 onto your own lines, but you could always move your forces out of the way once you've set them alight.

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    The idea is nice!
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    Default Re: Can we ignite the enemy's balls?

    I know what he was on about, I was bringing up the counter side of the point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dictator Of The Roman Republic View Post
    I know what he was on about, I was bringing up the counter side of the point.
    What I'm saying is that you can take away their element of surprise by igniting the balls yourself, so you know exactly when they might start rolling (rolling rolling rolling WHAT) and move your troops out of the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zala View Post
    What I'm saying is that you can take away their element of surprise by igniting the balls yourself, so you know exactly when they might start rolling (rolling rolling rolling WHAT) and move your troops out of the way.
    But if you are capable of intentionally lighting the enemy's balls on fire, wouldn't it be most likely that the enemy's element of surprise would already have been abolished?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SinerAthin View Post
    But if you are capable of intentionally lighting the enemy's balls on fire, wouldn't it be most likely that the enemy's element of surprise would already have been abolished?
    When I say element of surprise, I meant the not knowing when they would let loose the balls. So no, because you're never going to know when they'll do it (unless it's a scripted thing and it's when you get within X amount)

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    Default Re: Will we be able to sabotage enemy traps, such as flaming balls of hay, on the field?

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    Default Re: Will we be able to sabotage enemy traps, such as flaming balls of hay, on the field?

    the fact that flaming balls are in already is fun enough. But being able to turn them against your foes would be amazing. They should add this definatly.
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    Default Re: Will we be able to sabotage enemy traps, such as flaming balls of hay, on the field?

    Where all men fail, a woman will succeed, especially when it comes to crude humour

    Back to the topic. stakes in NTW could be destroyed by cannon fire, so it makes sense to believe that flamming balls are destroyable as well. But using fire arrows? Ain't this a little too awkward to walk your archers into range (which might be well in range of the flamming balls themselves), activate the fire arrow ability and manually order archers to attack the balls? My poor APM will never be able to do this smoothly in the heat of battle.

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    Default Re: Will we be able to sabotage enemy traps, such as flaming balls of hay, on the field?

    What was so funny about the thread title before?

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    Default Re: Will we be able to sabotage enemy traps, such as flaming balls of hay, on the field?

    Quote Originally Posted by Caesar15 View Post
    What was so funny about the thread title before?
    Just read the title over all the posts previous to the one from the moderator.

    On topic:
    It's a nice idea, but it would probably have little use: the fire arrows are too powerful to be wasted to burn balls of hay that can be easily dodged by cavalry, and for the archers to hit said balls they would have to be dangerously near them.

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