Legion III

[Pdguru]

Legion III Mod

I stumbled on this mod, but cannot find it referenced at TWC. It's very good - uses the work of many modders and the AI seems especially good. http://www.greatlegion.h15.ru/

Why is this not on TWC, or is there a problem with it?

[Lusted]

If you mean a) why does it not have a sub-forum here? Then thats because a modder must request a sub-forum for their mod. Or b) why is it not in the donwload section? The download section is not working properly at the moment, and can only host files up to a max size of 20mb.

[Pdguru]

Hi Lusted,

Thanks for the swift reply. Sorry to be unclear. I was more asking about why I have not heard of it or seen it discussed at TWC given it's a good piece of work. Have you tried it?

[Pdguru]

This is indeed a very good mod. A bit unstable, but worth every reload. The battle AI is amazing - how has this been done? The enemy forms, reforms, attacks, counter attackes, uses missiles (bows, javelins and siege machines) effectively... This is the first version that feels like I am playing a human opponent. Also, the graphics are sweet and smooth flowing... Great stuff.

That said, I have had ever increasing rate of CTD (always occuring at the battle loading stage, GAY) and so have returned to Rev 2 to see if that holds up better.

[Lusted]

No i have not. The reason its not been discussed much is that the mod maker does not post much at TWC, the only real info about the mod he's posted being the pic and a brief link to the download.

[GAY]

HI !
http://files.filefront.com/LEGION_II.../fileinfo.html - LEGION III : Relise Editio III

[Pdguru]

Hello GAY,

Nice work! Is the link you give above the same release as that at the link I mentioned in my first posting above?

Also, I have found that I have gotten attacked by the roman factions (playing as Julii) very early on. Is that part of your mod?

GAY,

I have downloaded and installed version re iii but it crashes immediately on launching a new imperial campaign. Any suggestions? I notice that it has an exe for Alexander TW - do you need that to play re iii?

OK - Update. I see that re iii has a Provincial Campaign, of which there is only one, called Imperial Campaign. If I select this, then it works. Am I doing it right? And is there a list of the content/changes in re iii?

Merged double post. - Trajan

[Pachinko]

WOW! I was looking for you!!! Thats funny.. Man its good to see you!

This is for "me"
-Delete the Peasants
-Delete growth Bounus -5
-Put the Standard for the Principate, Hastati and the Triarii
-MOST 1/2 construction.
-Repeating Ballista and Ballista 2 now 6
-Delete the "Arcani"

So far for me..

GAY,

I have downloaded and installed version re iii but it crashes immediately on launching a new imperial campaign. Any suggestions? I notice that it has an exe for Alexander TW - do you need that to play re iii?

OK - Update. I see that re iii has a Provincial Campaign, of which there is only one, called Imperial Campaign. If I select this, then it works. Am I doing it right? And is there a list of the content/changes in re iii?

Ya you need it. Its weird... :hmmm:

If you mean a) why does it not have a sub-forum here? Then thats because a modder must request a sub-forum for their mod. Or b) why is it not in the donwload section? The download section is not working properly at the moment, and can only host files up to a max size of 20mb.

Well, I THINK he doesnt know. But Ill tell you this...Its good...real good my man.

Merged triple post. Please use the edit button next time. - Trajan

[Pachinko]

Unstable..hmm. Never had a CTD. yet
Its nice huh.. I'm lovin it! BUT That Gauls are VERY tough. About 4000+ Legions against 1500+ Gauls. He kicked my arse! Im not a newbe believe me.

[Pdguru]

I seem to get a crash if I play 2 battles back to back - and at other random times, too.

Yes, the Gauls are tough. I just had a good win against 2 cathaginian armies, but I am am only playing difficuly, not the very diifficult level. Are you using reIII or RE2?

[Trajan]

Moved to the Mod Threads forum.

[loet66]

I can confirm it' a great mod work !!

I test the 6.4 Sinuhet's formations on it and seems works fine after 4/5 battles.

Well, I can tell only one thing : test it !!!

Sorry for my poor english, I'm a french guy.

[GAY]

This mod for RTW v1.9 ( Alexander.exe ).

[rayzzz]

which one is for rtw ALexander and which one is for 1.5?

[Pachinko]

Hi Gay... I really like the mod. Its a little bit SPQR Mod... And since I like that I really like yours. So can you give me the pictures....please..

[Hister]

I'm loading 2nd edition now - is it better than 3rd edition (heard of many CTD's in it)?

[Pachinko]

I'm loading 2nd edition now - is it better than 3rd edition (heard of many CTD's in it)?

Just like the other ones.. :hmmm:

[Hister]

O.K., thanx Pachinko.
I've played this mod a little (2nd edition) and I have mixed fillings about this one. First I was very surprised to see profesional brand new intro movie that was obviously not made by him (look his mod net site and you will get the idea). I suppose he must have gotten it from the developers of the game. Don't ask me how. GUY, can you please explain how did you pull this one out?
Game main menu is also made very professionaly and runs much smoother than menus in other mods - I have a very slow PC so I emidiately noticed that difference. I guess that it also wasn't made by him but again by developer.

Campaign itself is a mixture of some existing mods (as stated in installation of the mod-read below for all the details) and manages to implement some really good elements of other mods together (for example EB traits for characters).
But there are also things implemented that spoil gameplay experience. For example I personaly don't like the idea of having original vanilla units present in the mod since they are coloured. They kind'a don't go along well with other non-coloured units (for example RTR units which are implemented).
I hope there is going to be a modder that will swap vanilla units with some more realistic ones.

There are also many descriptions for units and buildings which are missing.

I played Juli faction end after a while some brigands (Samnite) emerged. When I attacked them I was totaly bitten. Stats for this unit are totaly unrealistic! Didn't play enough time to reach Gauls though so I can't really speak about them and how well AI is on battlefield. Will try today in my free time.

When you ingage in battle you will be impressed by the graphics and especially how smood the game runs - it is the best I have experienced up to now! Really amazing - it runs very well also on my AMD Thunderbird which would in other circumstances lack necessary power.

To draw a conclusion: this mod is really interesting, it also has some mystery wrapped around it (maybe 'cos mod maker lacks knowledge of english language and thus can't provide enough info). It is very good in some aspects but also bad in others. It would need additional polishing to become really enjoyable.

GAY, I really hope you can provide as with additional info - this way your mod will also be more known in the RTW mod-fan community as it certainly deserves that! Good job.

Below you can read what the mod maker GAY wrote (copy-pasted) his mode is all about:
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THE NEXT GENERATION OF GAMEPLAY .

LEGION III : Praetorians

DEVELOPER BY GAY.

GREAT GLOBAL MOD for ROME TOTAL WAR v 1.5

Based and Powered by Osprey , P.Connoly and Concord Historical Books.

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(An unofficial mod for the award winning game Rome:Total War created by Creative Assemply whose official rights now are hold by SEGA.)

This is a non-commercial product based on the computer game "Rome Total War" published by Activision/Creative Assemply.
Its purpose is to enhance the gameplay experience of this awarded game and not to be used for any profit creating reason. I have no responsibility for any undesirable effects that maybe noticed by misusing this software.
All skin-developers who have allowed me to use their work to create this product and also myself have spent hundreds of hours with no money reward just for
making the TW community and ourselves happier playing this game. Our only demand is that everyone respects this work and does not attempt to use this material for any public export without written permission.
I hope that everyone is satisfied with my effort and I will reply to everyone who has comments or reports of undesired bugs.
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Instructions for installation:

-Have a fresh Install of RTW
-Patch it to 1.3 then to 1.5 (or simply have a clean 1.6 BI version)
-play the prologue just once to unlock it (optional)
-Target the installation to extract to your RTW main game folder

Once in the game...
To activate the 4TPY and LEGION CAMPAIGN :
1. Click on a settlement you own
2. The advisor pops up.
3. Click ON her face.
4. Click on the "Show me" icon.
That's it.

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Global Changes :


1. 28 type of Roman Legioners : -
Legions - different textures and models , imaginifiers.
Nammed Legiones has recruit it his historical New Zone of Recruitment :
Legio II Augusta
Legio II Traiana Fortis
Legio III Augusta
Legio III Cyrenaica
Legio V Gallica
Legio V Macedonica
Legio VI Ferrata
Legio VI Victrix
Legio VII Claudia Pia Fidelis
Legio IX Hispana
Legio X Fretensis
Legio XIV Gemina Martia Victrix
Legio XV Apollinaris
Legio XVI Flavia Firma
Legio XX Valeria Victrix
Legio XXI Rapax
LEGIO XXII: DEIOTARIANA
Legio XXX Ulpia Victrix
COHORS I PRAETORIA
COHORS III PRAETORIA

6 Base legiones in Italy
2 SPQR only

2. Remake and added new models and skins for Greeks , Carthage , Macedon.
3. Full remake Barbarians factions.
4. New Big Map . Re-distribution of all starting faction provinces to provide historical and gameplay correction of challenge.
5. Also new vegetation settings for more thick forests and more opportunities for AI ambushes. Barbarian lands will now be very difficult to invade
6. New enhancements animations !!!
7. New buildings.
8. New Night Battles
9. Vastly improved scripting & enforced gameplay
10. Improved combat balancing
11. New combat system!!!
12. Implemented new unit stats for slightly longer battles (increased HPs for instance)
13. Changed unit recruitment to provide more experience for some units with higher level buildings
14. Traits and Ancillaries have been radically altered (no more Uber-Generals)
15. Increased the size of most mercenary pools
16. Modded the Day phasing and also the light and weather effects for the best and most realistic visuals. Nights will be realistic. Many battles will start with fog to clear out in the middle or rain may come in the midst of battle.
17. Removed boiling oil to help the AI in sieges (Found that in the totalwar.org but never managed to find again who wrote it to give credits….thanks anyway.
18. Many gameplay new settings for example Roman units are set to reflect their true historical way of fighting based on good shielding protection and infliction of critical hits that made them able to beat even stronger opponents. They are set in a very delicate unique way but are not overpowered. Their superiority is shown in the battlefield though.
19. Mass settings are creating real effects of charge penetrations, cavalry swarms, dead horse bodies are falling to disrupt infantry formations, Elephants are keeping infantry at a distance in a way that the battlefield feels alive and violent
20. Building times have been adjusted to a more realistic build time
21. War Dogs, Flaming Pigs, and Screeching Women are removed from the game
22. Campaign AI has been adjusted for aggressiveness
23. Ships have been adjusted to sink more often
24. Special tweaks made for population control
25. Increased Character Movement Points, Armies can move farther now
26. Added New Loading Screen and New Intro Video. Added New menu video
27. Added new FMV Videos
28. Added more grass to the battlefields
29. Added new Traits for more AI command stars
30. Added New Group formations for Roman Player
31. Added New Ship Models for Campaign Map from Riczu
32. Besides adding new Roman fort that is fixed, I also added Forts for the Other Factions
33. Added New horse mod
34. various traits updates
35. Incorporated Marcus Camillus's season changes
36. Client Kingdoms (Other factions will offer you their units from time to time.)
37. Four seasons per year

And many minor changes of Gameplay tweaks :

Traits and Ancillaries

Units and Buildings

Scripting





Special Thanks:

EB team
SPQR team
TFT team
RTR team
Alcibiades of Athens
Sinuhet
Icetorque
Lordbula
Honor&Glory
EB team and Alin
Pinarius
Archer
Riczu
Spartan
Vrabac
Trigger
Webbird
Prometheus
Warspite
Ferres
weirdshadys
TA & Gravedigger
ATG
Titus Andronicus
All the fellow modders who shared on TWC (www.twcenter.net) and the ORG (www.totalwar.org).
And last but not least. My hearty thanks for Creative Assembly for designing this game.


DEVELOPER AND POWERED BY GAY .
550@tut.by

[Pachinko]

O.K., thanx Pachinko.
I've played this mod a little (2nd edition) and I have mixed fillings about this one. First I was very surprised to see profesional brand new intro movie that was obviously not made by him (look his mod net site and you will get the idea). I suppose he must have gotten it from the developers of the game. Don't ask me how. GUY, can you please explain how did you pull this one out?
Game main menu is also made very professionaly and runs much smoother than menus in other mods - I have a very slow PC so I emidiately noticed that difference. I guess that it also wasn't made by him but again by developer.

Im have mixed too.. Its a good way to put it.. I think.. The intro was a "Preatorian" game....I think.
And yes its very smooth. Its really beautiful.

Campaign itself is a mixture of some existing mods (as stated in installation of the mod-read below for all the details) and manages to implement some really good elements of other mods together (for example EB traits for characters).
But there are also things implemented that spoil gameplay experience. For example I personaly don't like the idea of having original vanilla units present in the mod since they are coloured. They kind'a don't go along well with other non-coloured units (for example RTR units which are implemented).
I hope there is going to be a modder that will swap vanilla units with some more realistic ones.

There are also many descriptions for units and buildings which are missing.

I played Juli faction end after a while some brigands (Samnite) emerged. When I attacked them I was totaly bitten. Stats for this unit are totaly unrealistic! Didn't play enough time to reach Gauls though so I can't really speak about them and how well AI is on battlefield. Will try today in my free time.

When you ingage in battle you will be impressed by the graphics and especially how smood the game runs - it is the best I have experienced up to now! Really amazing - it runs very well also on my AMD Thunderbird which would in other circumstances lack necessary power.

To draw a conclusion: this mod is really interesting, it also has some mystery wrapped around it (maybe 'cos mod maker lacks knowledge of english language and thus can't provide enough info). It is very good in some aspects but also bad in others. It would need additional polishing to become really enjoyable.

GAY, I really hope you can provide as with additional info - this way your mod will also be more known in the RTW mod-fan community as it certainly deserves that! Good job.

I really like the little mods together to make it works. Its nice. Like you said the EB thinggy. Its really cool that has the pilum instead the sword... very cool. Even better you got the Triarii is kneeling!!
It seems to me a "Beta Legion III" But he doesnt say that.

Iput alot of my MOD..So it does work. If you want it E-mail me.

1. Delete Peasants
2. Delete growth -5
3. Put in the Standards where its supposed to be
4. All recruit 0 ie SPQR
5. Delete the Light Auxilia... Its the same... Idont know why...
6. Delete the Centerian(sp) for the Archers and Aux. Archers.
There others I cant remember.

[Andrea69]

Hello Gay

The Release Editio III for RTW 1.9 does not work for me. Just CTD when I try to launch the game. Maybe that's why I have the italian version of the game.
Gonna try with the Editio II for 1.5.