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    Default ( WIP ) New Ancillaries and Traits ( 05/06 Release of updated work on Dwarven factions )

    Hey hey there folks.

    When playing TATW, I can't help thinking that ancillaries sometimes don't fit Tolkien's universe. Indeed, some relics, some characters, are forgotten. Therefore, I've decided to make a mod that will bannish medieval II vanilla ancillaries for new TATW ancillaries. The ancillaries will be lore-accurate or realistic ( inspirations from a character in the book, for example I had the idea of the «*Captain Uruk-Haï*» when thinking of Ugluk )for a deeper immersion of the player.

    This mod will only be compatible with Firefreak's map.

    If you can find pictures or if you can make new ones, if you are a Tolkien's expert, if you are a modder, if you are writter, feel free to propose your help.

    If you have critics, suggestions, feel free to speak frankly beause different visions are the only way to improve the quality of a work. Also, if there are mistakes in the text, feel free to correct me( I'm french so there can be translation issues for example ).

    Here is a list of lore-accurate ancillaries ( extracted from the trilogy ) or already done ancillaries, I will post a preview of Isengard's new ancillaries in the 2nd post. This list doesn't contain all ancillaries : I made some some that aren't in originally.

    I would like to add ancillaries from Bilbo and The Unfinished Tales ( I've already started a list for the Third Age with the end of Isildur )

    THE LIST

    Good Factions

    Ent's water
    Ent's drink ( more powerful )
    Horse of the North
    Beorning
    Cram
    Druedain
    Prince of Rhovanion ( except Dwarves i think )
    Lossoth



    Eriador


    Mayor of Michel Delving - Done
    Thain of the Shire - Done
    Bandobras Bullroarer's club
    Gandalf's fireworks ( unique )
    Mithril-coat ( unique )
    Sting ( unique )
    Westernesse sword
    Galgal treasure
    Spear of Carn Dûm
    Pipeweed
    Wine
    Club
    Minstrel
    Banner of the Tree and the Stars ( unique )
    Athelas
    Seer
    Annuminas Sceptre


    Silvan elves


    Clothes of the Galadhrim
    Lothlorien sentinel
    Rumil
    Oprahïn
    Legolas' long knife
    Guardin of Cerin Amroth
    Lord of Caras Galadhon
    Lady Galadirel
    Elessar*
    Galadhrim bow
    Singer
    Elven minstrel



    High elves

    Gildor Inglorion ( unique )
    Asfaloth ( unique )
    Gondolin armor (unique )
    Lindir ( unique )
    Erestor (unique )
    Galdor (unique )
    Miruvor
    Singer
    Jeweller
    Eregion jeweller
    Eregion master-jeweller (unique)
    Carpenter
    Guardian of Elostirion
    Evenstar
    Elven minstrel
    Herald of arms


    Dwarves

    Ori
    Oïn
    Durin's axe
    Helmet of Khaazad-Dûm
    Book of Mazarbul
    Lord of Moria
    Gemstone
    Smith hammer
    Mithril coat
    Erebor coat
    Dwarven shield
    Dwarven coat
    Dwarven axe
    3 rings of power ( not sure, if Barad-Dûr is taken maybe*? )


    Gondor

    Great horn of the Stewards ( unique )
    Lore-master of Minas tirith ( unique )
    Captain-general ( should replace Geithyr )
    Mablung and Damrod ( unique )
    Anborn ( unique )
    Lebethron staff
    Lord of Minas Ithil
    Guardian of the Tower of the Moon
    Gondor knife
    Lore-master
    Master in tradition ( not sure of the translation )
    Poet
    Dol Amroth harpist
    Lebennin singer
    Dol Amroth knight
    Minstrel
    Galenas
    Athelas
    Healer
    Herald of arms
    Beregond ( unique )
    Ingold ( unique )
    Hurin of the keys ( unique )
    Citadel guard
    Banner of the Stewards
    Admiral of the Squadron or Captain of the Ships ( the first should go to an admiral I think )
    Lord of Emyn Arnen
    Prince of Ithilien
    Guardian of the Stone of Erech
    Lord of Lossarnach
    Lord of Morthond
    Lord of the Green Hills
    Seer
    Earnur's Crown ( for the Kings )
    Axe of Lossarnach
    Rohan steed


    Rohan

    Erkenbrand's black horn ( unique )
    Gleowyne ( unique )
    Guthlaf ( unique )
    Ceorl ( unique )
    Firefoot ( unique )
    Grimbold ( should replaced Gamling instead I think, and Gamling should be an ancillary )
    Elfhelm ( should be a general instead )
    Hama ( unique )
    Snowmane ( unique )
    Fine steed
    Master in tradition ( not sure of the translation )
    Poet
    Minstrel
    Herald of arms
    Lord of HarrowDale
    Royal guard
    Royal shield
    Gondor armor



    Orc Factions

    Orc bow - Done
    Orc dagger – Done
    Turbulent Orc – Done
    Orc smith – Done
    Orc woodcutter – Done
    Orc auxiliary – Done
    Wolf – Done
    Alpha wolf – Done
    Raw meat – Done
    Black coat of mail – Done
    Poison – Done
    Whip – Done
    Orc horn – to do


    Isengard


    Ring maker (unique ) - Done
    Bill Ferny ( unique ) - Done
    Half-orc - Done
    Fighting Uruk-haï - Done
    Uruk-haï champion - Done
    Captain Urul-haï - Done
    Uruk-haî raider - Done
    Dunlending - Done
    Dunlending champion – Done
    Isengard armor- Done



    Orcs of Gundabad

    Spear of Carn Dûm
    Stone troll
    Snow troll
    Hills troll
    King of Gundabad


    Orcs of the Misty Mountains

    Spear of Moria
    Stone troll
    Hills troll
    Black uruk


    Mordor

    Lieutenant of Barad-Dûr
    Mouth of Sauron
    King of Morgul
    Guardian of the Tower of Black Sorcery
    Captain of the Tower of Cirith Ungol
    Gorbag
    Shagrat ( should be a general instead I think )
    Black uruk
    Slave
    Slave conductor
    Captain of the old castle of Durthang
    Gothmog
    Orc black guard
    Variag
    Easterling
    Haradrim
    Troll chief
    Olog-haï


    Haradrim

    Red cloak
    Golden earrings
    Serpent banner
    Fine steed
    Harad shield ( with a point )
    Mûmakil conductor
    Harad scimitar
    Monkey of the South
    Half-troll
    Variag
    Captain of the Port ( Umbar )
    Slave



    CHANGELOG 05 / 06


    - New ancillaries added for the Dwarves
    - Some uis changed
    - New texts
    - Various changes in the effects and probabilities for the Dwarven ancillaries
    - 10 entirely new traits added : Avenger of Thrain ( not a tittle but given when Dol Guldir is taken ), Axe of Durin's Folk, Shield of Durin's Folk, Lord of Ered mithrin, Lord of the Iron Hills, Lord of Aglarond, Blessed by Aulë, Lord of Ered Luin, Lord of Moria
    --> new type of ancillaries named "realm" that give to the owner the possibility "of becoming a ruler" once certain conditions are fulfilled.
    = glittering_caves, ered_luin, grey_mountains, iron_hills, khazad_dum



    Special thanks to :
    -The Third Age team ( led by King Kong ) for making the mod.
    -Firefreak who made the map and granted me authorisation to use his work.
    - TheMundusbellicus community( especially Arandir Tur-Anion)
    -Arachir Galadurithon for his awesome help with his text.
    - Araval for his moral support and his help to fix the stuff
    - Hero of the West and his team for some uis
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    Default Re: ( WIP )New submod : realistic ancillaries

    /IMPORTANT ANNOUNCMENT\

    Before downloading and installing. This " submod " is more a resource for modders than a submod like MOS or DAC. Indeed, the files only contain the scripts and other mod things + the uis of the new ancillaries. Unless you know how to install it, I recommend you don't download it and wait for a modder that will include this new stuff. I may write a guide to install it in the future.
    For the modders, the files have been made to be compatible with DaC map so you must change some things. You have also to delete some ancillaries to avoid troubles with "double-named ancillaries".

    I give full permission to modders to use the stuff

    PREVIEWS :

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    DOWNLOAD LINKS :


    DWARVEN RELEASE 05/06 : Dwarves ancillaries.rar

    Isengard New ancillaries : Fixed Isengard ancillaries - SuperAnt.rar
    Old stuff : Old Isengard work.rar

    Elven New ancillaries : Elven ancillaries final.rar

    Additional ancillaries : Additional ancillaries - SuperAnt.rar
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    Default Re: ( WIP )New submod : realistic ancillaries

    Wow this is quite ambitious! Well done so far, the previews look great!

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    Very nice job here SuperAnt. Having added a few ancillaries to MOS the only thing you may wish to keep in mind is that a family member can only have 8 ancillaries which is a hard-coded limit. For most FMs this is not usually a problem but when dealing with faction heirs or unique characters you may run into them not being able to get other scripted ancillaries due to already being maxed out.

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    Default Re: ( WIP )New submod : realistic ancillaries

    Thanks for your support

    Very nice job here SuperAnt. Having added a few ancillaries to MOS the only thing you may wish to keep in mind is that a family member can only have 8 ancillaries which is a hard-coded limit. For most FMs this is not usually a problem but when dealing with faction heirs or unique characters you may run into them not being able to get other scripted ancillaries due to already being maxed out.
    Yes you're right and I'm aware of that, so I intend to ( unfortunately ) supress some ancillaries, or more precisely to replace them. For example, for Gondor, the " Steward of Gondor"' will be replaced by the "Stewards' white rod" and the "Writings of Isildur" ( in fact, Boromir himself doesn't know the existence of this document and is suprised to discover it at the Council, but don't worry the Lore-Master of Minas Tirith's description will speak about this document ) by the " Great horn of the Stewards" which passes through the hands of the Stewards' elder sons ( though it involves to change the heir's script, thing that I'm not able to do for the moment ).

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    Default Re: ( WIP )New submod : realistic ancillaries

    Great work!

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    Looking good, nice initiative.

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    Default Re: ( WIP )New submod : realistic ancillaries

    Just wanted to say that i'm currently on vacations, will be back on 4th August, I've already started to make new Dwarves ancillaries so next preview will be for them, and for other good factions ( will be a surprise )

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    Default Re: ( WIP )New submod : realistic ancillaries

    Hey there, here is the preview of the new dwarven ancillaries.

    They include a system of kingship symbolized by the Crown of Durin( when controlling Moria + Hollin's Gate ), the Crown of Fror ( when controlling Grey Mountains + Foothills + Withered Heath ), and the Guardian of Ered Luin ( when controlling west dwarven settlements ).

    Faction special ranks will be modified soon ( guardian of Halls, King Under the Mountain, Commander of the Iron Guard, king of the clans ) by new ones and maybe a heir script.

    They also include a system of gifts. If you manage to get an alliance with the Dwarves, you can gain rare ancillaries ( mithril coat, erebor coat, dwarven craftsmen, dwarven spear and sword ).

    There are more than 40 ancillaries ( some may have been lost in the uploading process, very annoying to do that with the amount of pictures... ), the pictures are pretty big, so be careful if your internet is bad.

    ( the english mistakes in dwarven sword, dwarven spear, hollins gate have been corrected normally )

    Enjoy

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    Default Re: ( WIP )New submod : realistic ancillaries ( New Preview 06/08 )

    Just wanted to post the last dwarven ancillaries.

    The first spoiler contains new ancillaries ( in fact some should have been in the last preview ) that replace the vanilla ones.


    The second contains ... well a fail, but also a little surprise


    Few informations : Rohan and Dale will have access to Fram's necklace. Also, the crown of Fror has been replaced by the crown of Dain I, because Fror was the son of Dain.


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    Ok so it's the new mazarbul_book, there is no problem, but I wanted to make it changed with the death of Balin



    I send Balin besiege Hollin's Gate to make him killed... but things turn wrong :p



    OOTM are very very weak :p



    Ok you like to slay orcs Balin, then I send you to Mordor my lad.



    Ah ! Dead ! At last !



    Text taken from the real Mazarbul Book, the one that Gandalf read ( in fact it's the end ) I wonder if I will make it accessible for all Good Factions, should be realistic



    A last thing : reps act on me like oil in a car : the more I have, the more I work :p

    ( don't hesitate to make comments, or critics in this thread )

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    Default Re: ( WIP )New submod : realistic ancillaries ( New Preview 06/08 )

    +rep those dwarven ancillaries are awesome!

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    These are all really great. One thing, though, is that the Dwarven Ring of Power should have some kind of jewel on it, because it's stated in the text that the One Ring was the only Ring of Power that didn't have a jewel.

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    Default Re: ( WIP )New submod : realistic ancillaries ( New Preview 06/08 )

    Once you have released this you should include in MOS if you can keep up the good work
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    Default Re: ( WIP )New submod : realistic ancillaries ( New Preview 06/08 )

    These are all really great. One thing, though, is that the Dwarven Ring of Power should have some kind of jewel on it, because it's stated in the text that the One Ring was the only Ring of Power that didn't have a jewel.
    Shouldn't be too complicated to make a new golden ring with a jewel. I thought one of the Seven Rings was in gold :

    It is said that in the beginning of each of Seven treasures of the old Dwarven Kings, there was a golden ring, but that treasures were looted once, devoured by the Dragons, some Rings were consumed by the flames, and Sauron took the others. Silmarillion, Rings of Power and the Third Age
    But it can be a golden ring with a jewel, it makes sense with your remark
    Last edited by SuperAnt; August 09, 2013 at 09:21 AM.

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    Default Re: ( WIP )New submod : realistic ancillaries ( New Preview 06/08 )

    Good ideas, good previews, I applaud your work.

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    Default Re: ( WIP )New submod : realistic ancillaries ( New Preview 06/08 )

    Good thinking! Keep on!

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    Default Re: ( WIP )New submod : realistic ancillaries ( New Preview 06/08 )

    An additional note is that the three remaing Seven Rings should start in the posession of Mordor, as Sauron had gathered them to him at leats prior to The Hobbit (2941), and TATW begins 2980.

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    Default Re: ( WIP )New submod : realistic ancillaries ( New Preview 06/08 )

    Hey there,

    An additional note is that the three remaing Seven Rings should start in the posession of Mordor, as Sauron had gathered them to him at leats prior to The Hobbit (2941), and TATW begins 2980.
    I agree, but if I give the Rings of Power to Mordor, they will be under the control of Orc generals. I think Sauron wouldn't suffer to let his servants control his rings. Maybe I can create a special ancillary for Sauron named "3 rings of power".

    I've done some ancillaries for Eriador, hope it'll please you

    Pictures of Glamdring, Anduril and gandalf's staff weren't made by me, I don't know who made them, they already were in the files.


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    Don't know what to do with this heir ancillary, as Eldarion is the new heir, I can create a system like the one of Guthwinë and Eomer. If someone has an idea of ancillary or another thing please propose.





























    Once allied with Silvan Elves :









































    Once allied with Eriador







    Special spoiler for RInger. I tried to find two made of silver and the last one of gold, according to your quotation and mine about Durin's ring

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    I have also a modder issue, the trigger of Isildur's equipment simply doesn't work, please if someone knows why it doesn't tell me because I spent hours to know why and didn't find out. ( the 100 chance was to see if the trigger was working .. )

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
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    Trigger isildur_sword
    WhenToTest PostBattle
    Condition WonBattle
    and IsGeneral
    and FactionType turks
    and IsRegionOneOf Lowest-Anduin-Vale_Province Lower-Anduin-Vale_Province
    and not I_WorldwideAncillaryExists isildur_sword

    AcquireAncillary isildur_sword chance 100


    I have a bad new, I will go to my new school next Thursday, so the rhythm of my works will low, I will try to release ancillaries for an entire faction.
    Last edited by SuperAnt; August 14, 2013 at 10:29 AM.

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    Default Re: ( WIP )New submod : realistic ancillaries ( New Preview 06/08 )

    Excellent work on Eriador!

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    Default Re: ( WIP )New submod : realistic ancillaries ( New Preview 06/08 )

    Those rings look great.

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