Would you like to have Avatar Conquest back?

[PROMETHEUS ts]

One of the features I really liked if shogun 2 was the avatar conquest , how it allowed to get special units , retainers to use on field and the little personal general details unlocked as well as the semi rpg style elements of the unit veterans and general !

I am really looking foward for that game mode online in rtwII ...

This really made me enjoy more the mp experience compared to past titles and mp is the only reason I still have my preorder up .

[Lord Dakier]

Funny how you hate on the features most enjoy and love the features most hate. I enjoyed the features of Avatar Conquest however it was unbelievably flawed to the point where I didn't want to see it anymore.

What I'd much rather see is just a General and his Army system where you can recruit any units but you must pay for them to begin with an elite units must be paid to be retrained. Basically it would be the veteran system however the more expensive the unit the longer it costs to replace. Maybe you can gain access to the elite units through unlocking regions, but not most units as they should be unlockable from the start.

[Karnil Vark Khaitan]

We will not see the return of avatar conquest.....

[CheesyFreak]

i loved Avatar Conquest, but i agree the Balance was flawed, i think retainers should be entirelly removed and we keep Veterans, dont care so much about what happens to general customization.

[GasCanGerry]

You can keep looking forward to it.. even though it won't be present. Also, it was complete rubbish, so i'm glad it won't be coming back.

[PROMETHEUS ts]

It was probably the best feature implemented in mp since long and allowed lot of variation tactics . The pure battles could be done as well because of simple retainer and position resource disabling .

[Lord Dakier]

It was probably the best feature implemented in mp since long and allowed lot of variation tactics . The pure battles could be done as well because of simple retainer and position resource disabling .

Don't be silly Prommy.

Avatar Conquest was a good idea, badly implemented.

The Dojo's were the real saviour's of MP. It made camping ineffective.

[Prof]

They said, they will not include it in Rome 2

[torongill]

One of the features I really liked if shogun 2 was the avatar conquest , how it allowed to get special units , retainers to use on field and the little personal general details unlocked as well as the semi rpg style elements of the unit veterans and general !

I am really looking foward for that game mode online in rtwII ...

This really made me enjoy more the mp experience compared to past titles and mp is the only reason I still have my preorder up .

So what's the reason for this thread, now that it has been announced(like MONTHS AGO) that there won't be an avatar mode? To say "Cancel my pre-order NAO!"?

[d4g4n]

So what's the reason for this thread, now that it has been announced(like MONTHS AGO) that there won't be an avatar mode? To say "Cancel my pre-order NAO!"?

That is an educated guess

[✠Ikaroqx✠]

I liked the Avatar mode too, but I miss the old multiplayer feature where you could choose your armies from custom funds and not have to worry about loosing veteran units at the end. It felt too much a campign imo where every unit is important and your want to conserve your armies.

[perablenta]

If you want to have a MP in a game you have to base it on a balanced, even sided, well though off in advanced system.

Avatar conquest was everything but.

1. Random drops that had very OP items or retainers. Random can not nor should it ever exist in a MP environment.
2. Badly planned and even worse made unit upgrades that allowed creating machine gunners out of simple matchlocks. On top off that perfect weather was default setting so matchlocks could never become useless if it rained on the battlefield.
3. Veteran upgrades like 175 and 200 range creating absolute units out of those who lacked this upgrade.
4. Farming veterans by playing vs friends over and over again just so you could level them up... can't even express how much that disgusted me when I heard of it
5. Novice and bad players being forced out of the game be players who simply "grind" more to get better units, more upgrades, high general levels and better retainers.
And more...

I say good riddance

Only thing they should keep is General leveling and Melee, Bow or Leadership trees and cosmetic color and armor additions ( that should be the whole reason for existance of veterans just so you can paint and dress them to give your army a unique look)

[ashbery76]

They got rid of it due to low demand in S2.

[Fanest]

No NO No and again no, its one of the most hated things in STW2 and i dont want it back also they promised that it wont be in RTW2 and im very happy with this

[CheesyFreak]

i just hope its something new, i dont want to go back to the battlelist and the bronze/silver/gold upgrades , thats actually my only wish, to retain the veteran system ala shogun 2(possibly removing the extra range upgrade and similar things).

[Sowilo]

Some being fooled.... The only reason he liked it was because they said they were not doing it. If you havent figured it out yet his only goal in life is to give CA Impressions of community that clearly are not there. Most people who say the things he says would have given up a long time ago on total war and went on to other things.

[|Sith|Galvanized Iron]

Promy is clearly trolling, everyone knows that the avatar mode was complete garbage, especially the retainer part and token hunting. Good riddence.

[Sir Nicholas Altman]

Seems to me he is throwing the bone of confusion and discontent.

[Sun Jetzu]

Pro you should add a poll to this, like a petition for Avatar Conquest

[Toho]

I have yet to see a single person here on this thread that likes AC besides Prom.
seems like everyone hates this stupid feature. lets go back to the classics, it was never broken so why should they change it?