Compiled unit stat cards for units fighting in battle of the Nile

[groovyjohal]

Hi,

After watching the battle of the nile for the nth time I decided i would compile all the unit stat cards in one picture and try to compare the units. So here is my effort at it:


I hope i got the image upload right, this is my first time doing it. Any suggestions on better use of the image would be welcome.
I just wanted to upload this so we can have a bit of discussion while comparing the units as we see their stats in light of their performance of the battle of the nile.

A few observations from my end:
Evocati and legionaries seem to have a tad bit too much armor. Their stats look absolutely top notch 0 justifiable considering they are really good. However, I believe we need to see their performance against other similarly sized heavy infantries to better judge this data they seemed to win almost effortlessly in the video...
Chariots charge bonus is almost equal to the Evocati (is this a changed value after the rezzed demo?)
Elephant charge bonus is less than cavalry (a bit confused)
Ptolemaic cavalry look like beasts yet they were almost absent in the whole battle
Unit cards look stunning
Egyptian infantry looks like useless with small unit sizes and stats
Camel spearmen have even less charge bonus than an infantry unit
The pikemen were, as is evident from their desciption in the card, peasant pikes, so that explains their dismal performance.

I know that the game is in balancing stage, which is why i am trying to merely discuss the performance of units as seen in the battle.
Skirmishers had no stats in the battle, their unit stat cards were empty save for the no. of men
I apologize if this has all been mentioned in any earlier posts. I am a frequent visitor on the forums and did not see them...

P.S. - I am really loving this idea of a lets play and this is a great move by CA as we can get the true feel of the game through these videos Looking forward to the next one!

sauce: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e27MtFbxK4k

[Karnil Vark Khaitan]

weird no moral bar?

[Emperork]

weird no moral bar?

I think they just didn't include morale in the demo, would be odd if moral was not included.

[Mr. Bundy]

nice!

[SamueleD]

Good work +rep, but you forgot the ships, if you compile them too and compare them to land units, you'll discover something interesting.

[groovyjohal]

Thanks
I'll get to that now...

[zala]

sauce: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e27MtFbxK4k

I laughed more than I should of.
Thanks for doing this man! +rep

[lacrossepl9]

I brought up the question of why the Egyptian infantry and so few units and literally horrible stats. I hope that's not in the actual game but I'm sure its just for the historical battle. I'm guessing that normally they'll have 160 soldiers just like all other infantry (non-marine) units

[Aragorn-Elessar]

good job

[Bearnation54]

Anyone notice the skull and crossbones near the troop amount? Does anyone know what they mean???

[RGA]

Anyone notice the skull and crossbones near the troop amount? Does anyone know what they mean???

Number of men killed by this particular unit

[Emperor Domitianus]

Anyone notice the skull and crossbones near the troop amount? Does anyone know what they mean???

I believe the number of men lost or those that can't recover from the battle. Probably not all men die in battle but some can be recovered.

[ChairmanCrassus]

Number of men killed by this particular unit

This.

I believe the number of men lost or those that can't recover from the battle. Probably not all men die in battle but some can be recovered.

No, Camel Archers are at 80/80 strength and have 2 skulls. Its the number of men the unit has killed.

[SamueleD]

Anyone notice the skull and crossbones near the troop amount? Does anyone know what they mean???

It's the number of kills. From left to right: number of men, (initial number of men), kills, experience.

[Emperor Domitianus]

Great and usefull work man.

[Bearnation54]

That's awesome! Thanks for the response guys. I wonder if it only keeps track for that battle or the entire life of the unit if it is the entire life that would be awesome!

[SamueleD]

That's awesome! Thanks for the response guys. I wonder if it only keeps track for that battle or the entire life of the unit if it is the entire life that would be awesome!

I don't know, if you have Shogun 2 check its killcount to see if it's persistent or if it resets withe every battle.

[Hadro]

I don't know, if you have Shogun 2 check its killcount to see if it's persistent or if it resets withe every battle.

In shogun 2 the counter resets with every new battle.

[xjlxking]

Nice job mate. I wonder how upgrade will work if the unit is already at the max?

[wizardfingersz]

It seems like the melee defense values are higher than the attack values, this should mean battles last longer right? In Shogun 2 it was the other way around.