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    Default HRE blues...

    I was playing SS6.4 after a very long time (Early Campaign HRE) & planned to recreate the Drang Nach Oest by waiting till the emergence of the Teutonic Order & using the ensuing chaos to invade Poland.

    However, there was no sign of the Order- even after 1230. And worse, I didn't get a single Teutonic Order chapterhouse throughout the game- even though I attacked/ raided/ killed thousands of Muslims & Pagans in Crusades.

    Can anyone tell me what is happening?

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    Default Re: HRE blues...

    Early campaign, the Teutonic Order doesnt spawn. You have to play late campaign for that.

    In late campaign, Teutonic order is there right at the start (1220)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duck of Death View Post
    Early campaign, the Teutonic Order doesnt spawn. You have to play late campaign for that.
    The Early Campaign Campaign script includes text on the Teutonic Emergent faction. However, in my case, it is not triggering for some reason.

    And can anyone tell me why I'm not getting any Teutonic units & guild houses as HRE?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chromium View Post
    The Early Campaign Campaign script includes text on the Teutonic Emergent faction. However, in my case, it is not triggering for some reason.

    And can anyone tell me why I'm not getting any Teutonic units & guild houses as HRE?
    im not 100% on this but I dont think you get them after the TO emerges. Not sure what requisites are needed for them though.

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    Default Re: HRE blues...

    i am pretty sure TO does spawn in Early campaign. Both campaigns are the same. late just starts at a later date

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    Default Re: HRE blues...

    In my campaigns they always spawn at 1220-1230 turn.

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    Maybe they didn't spawn because there must be some conditions met for it to happen? Perhaps you are playing some submods that removes them?
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    Default Re: HRE blues...

    You need to go into the EDB and remove the restriction " and not event_counter inquisition 1" from the chapterhouses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baltic Warrior View Post
    Maybe they didn't spawn because there must be some conditions met for it to happen? Perhaps you are playing some submods that removes them?

    Nope, no such submods installed. The conditions aren't a problem either- there's a FactionExists condition and OwnsSettlement condition- both of which are satisfied.

    Besides, can you tell me why I'm not able to give families to the starting generals for HRE late campaign? I was trying to make a von Tirol family to rule over Innsbruck but every attempt has resulted in either a complete failure or a CTD. Thanks in advance for any advice.

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    Default Re: HRE blues...

    Quote Originally Posted by Chromium View Post
    I didn't get a single Teutonic Order chapterhouse throughout the game- even though I attacked/ raided/ killed thousands of Muslims & Pagans in Crusades.
    Teutonic Order Chapterhouse


    Only the HRE gets to build this chapterhouse, and it is available in the following settlements:

    -Thorn
    -Stettin
    -Hamburg
    -Magdeburg
    -Palanga

    -Minor Chapterhouse: settlement size = city or larger
    -Major Chapterhouse: settlement size = large city

    **The building of Teutonic Order Chapterhouses is also linked to the "Inquisition" event, and is apparently only enabled before the inquisition begins.


    Edit:

    As to the Teutons not showing up, the script trigger for their arrival in the campaign_script seems to be The Inquisition, so if that hasn't happened yet then that's the problem.

    Without seeing the code you're trying to add for the family tree it's pretty hard to troubleshoot, but for starters I can link a very helpful resource on Family Trees made by Kilic Ali. A common error while adding new family members are age differences not being correct between parents and offspring..
    Last edited by Mank; July 18, 2013 at 10:34 AM.

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    Mank: You're tips for chapterhouses no longer applies to SS6.4.

    The correct information is in the changelog on the SS6.4 download page, along with a fix for the Teutonic Knights.

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    Default Re: HRE blues...

    Right you are alufdufe, I had my 6.3 install pulled up (woops!). I've updated my original post for the 6.4 info, thanks for pointing that out.

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    Thanks for the help! I'll try out the teutonic fix & see what happens in my next campaign!

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