Great spiders ctd

[swordsanddaggers]

Each time i start a battle with or against some spiders units my game ctd.
I'm using the TATW 3.2 + Mos submod and already tried the vanilla version but the probleme persists...

[Otterbear]

I have been looking since the creation of this mod, for a solution to that problem. I STILL have not found any. (The only thing that works for me is to remove "Spiders" as a unit (Export_desc_units.txt)*I usually just dummie out the spiders units, and then make sure that no buildings (Export_desc_buildings.txt) are producing them. (Remove lines with spiders in them.) Then you have to check that NO special scripts are producing spider units. (AND THEY ARE!), so you then have to figure out how to get rid of them there too. A very long a tedious process, and full of the possibility of mistakes. )\

[swordsanddaggers]

what do you mean by special scripts??

[Otterbear]

There are some files that generate armies for the game, (Like rebel armies, or invasion forces, or just start up armies) that may contain the spider units. Unless you can locate the file(s) that do this, you will still end up with armies with spider units, and IF you have removed them as a unit from *Export_descr_Units" or other places, they may cause your game to crash.

[Colorlessgreen]

I believe i have exactly the same problem. I wonder though, how did you come to this conclusion (I couldn't)? I'm currently re-installing tatw+mos 1.50 for the fifth time and when its finished i will try to test it out, see if it indeed is the spiders (I've only tried a game of silvan elves and rohan, but both scenarios crashed when i met a certain general.) and if it has something to do with MOS.

I've tried the daylight saving time, deleting the appropriate files etc. but nothing have worked. Quite aggrivating.

[ElvenKind]

Your system specifications (processor or CPU, GPU or display device, amount of RAM installed ) ? More info on how to find system specs by using dxdiag command in Start - Run- or Search Programs and Files : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGjcCLo265o

[Colorlessgreen]

Your system specifications (processor or CPU, GPU or display device, amount of RAM installed ) ? More info on how to find system specs by using dxdiag command in Start - Run- or Search Programs and Files : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGjcCLo265o

(i'll hijack this for a moment). It was not the spiders who caused a CTD but i got a crash a few turns afterward (perhaps the 6 turn) at Harads turn. My turn time is awful long (but it have always been like this with MOS installed, vanilla is between 5-8 seconds, with MOS i'm at 20-30 sec).

I have no idea what is causing the crash except perhaps one thing; i installed "sweetfx" to my medieval II folder (but this seems like an independent tweak). If you disregard this, I've done everything in the book (read a lot of your posts around the forums);
- correct install path. 1.50 MOS on a "clean" vanilla mods folder.
- Uninstalled TATW through the uninstallation file + removed the folder by shift+delete.
- deleted the appropriate files (map.rvm, geo_new etc.)
- ran the cleaner, checked the "full installation" after each install.

- disabled daylight savings time.
- already beforehand i had UAC turned off (so bothersome).
- hidden folders are shown.
- i got full admin rights.
- no overclocking except my CPU which i regard as stable and i've played TATW+MOS countless of times before on this build (nothing hardware wise have changed).

- installed the re-uploaded versions of tatw (3.2) and MOS (1.41 standalone + 1.5) + the 1.5 fix in the MOS thread (i'll try to redownload TATW, perhaps some files got corrupted?).
- I've tried several different installation combinations like moving it to a different folder etc.

System:
Windows 8, Core2Duo E8400 @ 3750 mhz, 4gb ram, ATI HD5770, enough disk space.
My Medieval game is a CD (not steam).
- Full graphic settings except shadows which is set to none.
- fully updated graphic, bios and cpu drivers.

Have worked in the past with MOS 1.41, completely stable and i think (perhaps...) that it is also stable without MOS. Will try to test Vanilla now and after that 1.41 (perhaps it has something to do with 1.50).

Any clue? and thanks!

[swordsanddaggers]

Your system specifications (processor or CPU, GPU or display device, amount of RAM installed ) ? More info on how to find system specs by using dxdiag command in Start - Run- or Search Programs and Files : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGjcCLo265o

http://puu.sh/3Pj78.png here's my specs
and still have the same probleme

[ElvenKind]

http://puu.sh/3Pj78.png here's my specs
and still have the same probleme

All looks good.. other thing I would suggest is to reinstall TATW, and in order to get this done right, answer these few questions:

1. What Windows do you have?
2. Is your M2TW steam or non steam version?
3. You have all four TATW Installers downloaded?
4. This problem occurs in vanilla TATW + submod, or just in vanilla TATW ?

[swordsanddaggers]

All looks good.. other thing I would suggest is to reinstall TATW, and in order to get this done right, answer these few questions:

1. What Windows do you have?
2. Is your M2TW steam or non steam version?
3. You have all four TATW Installers downloaded?
4. This problem occurs in vanilla TATW + submod, or just in vanilla TATW ?

1. Windows 8
2. Non steam version,disk version to be more exact.
3. Yes I've installed the mod just like it is shown in King kong tutorial with the 4 installers.
4. I'm currently using the MOS subbmod but the probleme started back when I was still using the vanilla TAWT,and also I've already tried to reinstall TAWT /the whole game "m2tw" and still the same probleme...
And I just found out that I have the same crash probleme with sauron too.

[ElvenKind]

Redownload MOS 1.5, apparently first upload was corrupted. During downloading don't do some multitasking, play games or browse the Internet ( like, don't go to Youtube, to TWC...).

[Colorlessgreen]

Redownload MOS 1.5, apparently first upload was corrupted. During downloading don't do some multitasking, play games or browse the Internet ( like, don't go to Youtube, to TWC...).

Ah yes, it works now. I did a complete reinstall of medieval and that seems to have done the trick. mmh, sorry to have bothered you!
and thank for the replies

[ElvenKind]

It could be VirtualStore issue...

In my signature bellow, click on link called: "EK's Install Thread", and apply the first three steps explained for Windows 8 Users: edit security, unhide hidden folders, check VirtualStore for M2TW folder.

[swordsanddaggers]

oh I've already done that to x)

[ElvenKind]

Your system specs are way too good for TATW, so that shouldn`t be a problem.. You could try:
1. to update your Graphics card and see does that help you,
2. Delete map.rwm file found in ..M2TW\ mods\ Third_Age_3\ data\ world\ maps\ base folder.
3. Go to ..M2TW\ mods\ Third_Age_3\ data\ text folder and delete 27 *strings.bin files:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

4. If this doesn`t help you, Uninstall TATW+MOS, start M2TW campaign once so that the data resources refresh, and, reinstall TATW.

[swordsanddaggers]

Thanks for the help even if it still won't work....hoping for somekind of a fix in the futur.