Portraits of generals should be different and more variety

[Antiochus]

Portraits of generals aren't look good.

I saw them in E3 and Rezzed video on campaign map.

They look:

- the same faces (no variety - 3-4 faces in others positions and 3-4 types of helmets),
- too plastic and not natural,
- graphic from few years ago (portraits similar to Rome 1).

http://imageshack.us/a/img849/6859/tcpv.jpg

[img]http://imageshack.us/a/img849/6859/tcpv.jpg[/img]


the same face (in few positions) are:
1) man without helmet - x2 in Julia, x1 in Cornerila, x1 in Junia = 4x !
2) man in white helmet - x1 in Julia, x2 in Junia = x3

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Generals have montefortino helmets in the screen of Romanportraits. This helmet was simple and used by poor soldiers, especially hastati or principes. Richer soldier like triarii used etrusco-corinthian or attic helmets. Generals, officers used the best helmets - attic or similar to Greeks with plumes, reliefs etc.

[Liu Zheng]

I agree, the portraits in Shogun 2 were better. This one reminds me a lot of Rome 1. Way too much difference from the unit cards and the general one.

[Archilles]

Alpha

Didnt they say that this isnt the final menue?!? Maybe not all faces were includet for this presentation...
Otherwise it wouldnt be really bad for me

[Caighlain]

I hope they will add some diversity in the final game, having too few portraits for generals/agents are not good enough.

[T-Duke]

I don't like them too but I'm not worried about that 'cause we have a great modder community

[Rittsy]

Aren't they Romans of the same family? Shouldn't they share similarities?

[Antiochus]

Alpha

Didnt they say that this isnt the final menue?!? Maybe not all faces were includet for this presentation...
Otherwise it wouldnt be really bad for me

Archilles, are you joking? Alpha? There are 2 months to release! They have few weeks (or few days) to finnish full game, becase they will need time to send to factory, burning DVD, packing to box, send to shops. They need 1-1,5 month to make these things... It is not Alpha, I am sure...

Aren't they Romans of the same family? Shouldn't they share similarities?

Rittsy, you read my first post of thread? I wrote about 3 families:

The same face (in few positions) are:
1) man without helmet - x2 in Julia, x1 in Cornerila, x1 in Junia = 4x !
2) man in white helmet - x1 in Julia, x2 in Junia = x3

Julia, Cornelia and Junia are 3 families. In screen you can see 3 families, too.

[Rittsy]

Archilles, are you joking? Alpha? There are 2 months to release! They have few weeks (or few days) to finnish full game, becase they will need time to send to factory, burning DVD, packing to box, send to shops. They need 1-1,5 month to make these things... It is not Alpha, I am sure...




Rittsy, you read my first post of thread? I wrote about 3 families:



Julia, Cornelia and Junia are 3 families. In screen you can see 3 families, too.

Yeah I can see three guys who look very similar. Two of which are in the same family. I don't know, I wouldn't stress about this too much. Portraits wouldn't be too complicated to add, these might just be place holders.

[RGA]

How's about waiting for the full game to be released? The E3 and Rezzed demo is a version specifically built for public showing. Not all parts of the game was included. Remember, such a big game has to be developed in separate modules. I won't be surprised if such a minor module as face variation was left out.

[=Vastator=]

I agree, Rome I ones were a lot better.
BTW check the open jobs at CA, they are searching for a "CHARACTER ARTIST".
http://www.creative-assembly.com/job...t3d-generalist
If they'll find him soon enough i think portraits will be changed, if not...

[kamikazee786]

I agree, Rome I ones were a lot better.
BTW check the open jobs at CA, they are searching for a "CHARACTER ARTIST".
http://www.creative-assembly.com/job...t3d-generalist
If they'll find him soon enough i think portraits will be changed, if not...

nice job spotting that, i really do hope CA improve the UI, Diplomacy options and the character portraits before release

[Antiochus]

Yes, generals from Rome 1 (9 years ago) are better. They were more various.

[Pour Some Sugar On Me]

I don't care if these were the portraits in the final game. You only saw the roman portraits, wait till you saw the Greek, Gauls, Egyptian portraits, etc etc. Then we can compare it to the original Rome. And atleast they have some facial expressions

[TotalWarker]

Cannot make a judgement on stuff like this till Ive seen the game in more detail rather than a screenshot or two of an incomplete build. Think people are stressing too much over small stuff that has been extrapolated from a small amount of info and is at best an educated guess.

[Julio-Claudian]

I don't see that there's anything wrong with them. Their faces are all different, some are wearing similar helmets. They're fine. And they'll probably be even more fine in the actual game.

[Cyrus the Virus]

Yes, generals from Rome 1 (9 years ago) are better. They were more various.

And more aesthetically pleasing as well

Cannot make a judgement on stuff like this till Ive seen the game in more detail rather than a screenshot or two of an incomplete build. Think people are stressing too much over small stuff that has been extrapolated from a small amount of info and is at best an educated guess.

The release date is approaching.. that is what we know. Can absolutely not take it for granted that things will change just because it's pre-release.

[TotalWarker]

The release date is approaching.. that is what we know. Can absolutely not take it for granted that things will change just because it's pre-release.

Surely by that logic you cant be sure they wont as well?

My point is saying "this should have been done like this/why have you not changed this" is pretty silly at a stage where CA themselves have said the game is not yet complete, and they have a solid 2 months before release (taking into account the fact you have to be connected to steam for instal and therefore there is very likely a day 1 update)

It's not healthy for everyone to rage so much about uncertainties!

[Cyrus the Virus]

Surely by that logic you cant be sure they wont as well?

The closer we get to release the closer fact the game gets carved in stone.

My point is saying "this should have been done like this/why have you not changed this" is pretty silly at a stage where CA themselves have said the game is not yet complete, and they have a solid 2 months before release (taking into account the fact you have to be connected to steam for instal and therefore there is very likely a day 1 update)

It's not healthy for everyone to rage so much about uncertainties!

Depends on what they mean the game is "yet not complete", and 2 months out of lets say, 2-3 years of development is nothing.

When has CA changed anything post release that is not bugfixing? Considering this we discuss is part of the look and appearance of the game I very much doubt anything would be change once the game is out. Would be glad to be proved wrong though.

[Razor]

The release date is approaching.. that is what we know. Can absolutely not take it for granted that things will change just because it's pre-release.

Very few know that R2TW will actually be a point-and-click 2D adventure game. This is just an alpha version.

[Antiochus]

I don't see that there's anything wrong with them. Their faces are all different, some are wearing similar helmets. They're fine. And they'll probably be even more fine in the actual game.

You don't have right. For example, there are two men whos the first is as four faces and the second isas 3 faces.

1) young man without helmet and short black hair is 4x! - x2 in Julia, x1 in Cornerila, x1 in Junia = 4x the same man !
2) man in white helmet is 3x - x1 in Julia, x2 in Junia = x3 the same man.

Thse are only 2 excamples. I am sure that they are duplicate faces but in other positions...