OFFICIAL REZZED COMPLAINT THREAD!

[Sherm]

Some nice things. CA staff did a good job presenting and answering questions, and they seemed earnest and down to earth. They just needed more time for Q&A. The naval battle looked very interesting. The Nile battle map is beautiful.

But but but...

1.) Those bowling pin animations really suck. Please, please get rid of them.
2.) The diplomacy interface and the portraits were stale and generic looking...not the end of the world but surprising for a TW about Ancient Rome? Not exactly a stale period for artistic inspiration.
3.) The campaign map...why is there no farmland in Egypt??? No sign of life in Syria outside city walls??? It all seems so sterile.
4.) The land battle was absurd. It was all comic entertainment with gimmicky weapons leaving us to wonder what a "real" battle might be like or whether there will be real battles. No idea.

So...

Mod support is going to be essential for this game. That includes map modding.

Yeah, I Noted the fact that out of the cities, egypt is empty of civilization

[wizardfingersz]

Is it just me or does the Siege of Carthage look and play better than the Battle of the Nile?

[Raikou]

Is it just me or does the Siege of Carthage look and play better than the Battle of the Nile?

Did you also notice in Siege of Carthage they used Shogun 2 audio files yet with battle of the nile they used the actual game audio (you can hear the arrows glancing off Al's troops armor)

I'm convinced this demo was made with earlier code than maybe even carthage and tweaked to be sped up for previews not being long sake.

[RedGuard]

Did you also notice in Siege of Carthage they used Shogun 2 audio files yet with battle of the nile they used the actual game audio (you can hear the arrows glancing off Al's troops armor)

I'm convinced this demo was made with earlier code than maybe even carthage and tweaked to be sped up for previews not being long sake.

well don't you think that is kinda retarded if true? we should be seeing the game getting progressivly better up till release not taking steps back. No I think this is the true game and Carthage was the one that was tweaked.

I have a feeling that the game is being dumbed down to gather in the most amount of people possible. Bit you can't blame a corporation for acting like a corporation. They need to at least make the 40% extra they spent on it back, on top of the normal budget, and to do that they need to attract more casual players. the Irony is they are alienated their core fan base.

[Raikou]

well don't you think that is kinda retarded if true? we should be seeing the game getting progressivly better up till release not taking steps back. No I think this is the true game and Carthage was the one that was tweaked.

I have a feeling that the game is being dumbed down to gather in the most amount of people possible. Bit you can't blame a corporation for acting like a corporation. They need to at least make the 40% extra they spent on it back, on top of the normal budget, and to do that they need to attract more casual players. the Irony is they are alienated their core fan base.

Why does everyone assume it's easy to simply throw together a campaign playthrough and battle demo? Maybe the same reason they didn't release a demo? More focus on the final code and polishing etc etc for release.

Will just have to wait til reviews come out on the game to decide if this game is truly "casual players" oriented.

[Huberto]

Why does everyone assume it's easy to simply throw together a campaign playthrough and battle demo? Maybe the same reason they didn't release a demo? More focus on the final code and polishing etc etc for release.

They've already said their going to do a prelude/tutorial campaign so make that the demo. Can't think of a single reason why they wouldn't use that as the demo -- unless they don't want us to see the game before we buy.

[Nexatt]

The Carthage gameplay was way early development. The use of the audio assets from Shogun 2 was because they hadn't created Rome 2s by that point. The gameplay they showed at Rezzed would be close to the finished game, albeit without the polish of the last months before release. That means what you saw here is basically what you're going to get.

In my opinion, this isn't a bad thing. It doesn't look bad. It looks fun and is reminiscent of the first Rome. I still watch PoMs videos on Youtube because the first game was so entertaining, even when you're not even playing.

Having said that, this is he complaint thread and I do have some issues with the game. The HUD style is somewhat confusing. It is very minimalist and modern. This isn't by itself a problem, but its out of place in a game set in the ancient world. Not a huge deal.

Second issue was the physics of course. However I'm sure they are working on this to tone it down. Hey have a couple of months to get things right.

My third issue was not showing us a battle of flat ground. While I love hill defensives and seeing the new capture points are entirely awesome, I really wanted to see how the AI fought when no one had the terrain advantage.


Otherwise, the game's looking pretty damn entertaining.

[craziii]

I can never understand the "running in place" gamers. I dunno about you guys, but I never had a problem with unit speeds in TW games. especially with the pause button right at the gamers' finger tips.

[ptoss1]

I can never understand the "running in place" gamers. I dunno about you guys, but I never had a problem with unit speeds in TW games. especially with the pause button right at the gamers' finger tips.

Napoleon was so slow. God that was annoying. I'm fine with Shogun 2's movement speed, but the units just die too fast for me to really react and get a hang of what's going on.

[total relism]

flags....thats all i have to say.
battles pace way to fast.
unit kills way to high.
artillery overpowered.

[HaveFallen]

No assassination animations : (
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[Noif de Bodemloze]

No assassination animations : (
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Yes, I was deeply sad when there wasn't assassination animations. It totally throw us back from S2 to Rome 1

[RedGuard]

Yes, I was deeply sad when there wasn't assassination animations. It totally throw us back from S2 to Rome 1

are we sure there is no Assassination animations? that just might not be done yet.

[Noif de Bodemloze]

are we sure there is no Assassination animations? that just might not be done yet.

I hope so it is not be done yet, but in that assassination animation i was suspect that there is one guy in corner and this subject is walking in the street, when this subject was passed this killer, then killer come from behind and backstab/hang him on rope to death and then he run away. Epic assassinates like in Medieval 2 total war, what I really miss a lot.

[ptoss1]

What's so great about a long boring animation?

[-=PHX=-Hades]

What's so great about a long boring animation?

I watched them once, then I stopped.

[RedGuard]

I watched them once, then I stopped.

yes. once you see the same one 300 times you tend to not watch them again. no real loss there if true

[Raikou]

pretty sure Shogun 2 didn't have video animations...Did I miss something lol? Stop making stuff up

[ptoss1]

pretty sure Shogun 2 didn't have video animations...Did I miss something lol? Stop making stuff up

Shogun 2 has always had video animations for assassinations.

[Sharpe]

The videos can build a bit of tension but they are a triviality IMO.

Some nice art is a fine substitute.