OFFICIAL REZZED COMPLAINT THREAD!

**spiderknight** · June 22, 2013, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by AngryPolack

I absolutley loathe the jokey-jokey presentation by CA. "Release the balls", ridiculous rally points and so on. It's silly and childish. This is a wargame that I was contemplating buying a new pc for and I feel like someones talking to me like I'm an 8 year old when I watch these vids. Really not liking what I see. Holding off preorder and new pc until you guys give some reviews.

Have to agree. I skipped through a lot of the video and eventually turned the sound off. The commentary was just painful

**Miszel** · June 22, 2013, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by AngryPolack

I absolutley loathe the jokey-jokey presentation by CA. "Release the balls", ridiculous rally points and so on. It's silly and childish. This is a wargame that I was contemplating buying a new pc for and I feel like someones talking to me like I'm an 8 year old when I watch these vids. Really not liking what I see. Holding off preorder and new pc until you guys give some reviews.

You are the 1%, sorry, this game was created by people like this for people like this. If you dont like it go play Paradox or CiV.

**AngryPolack** · June 22, 2013, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by Miszel

You are the 1%, sorry, this game was created by people like this for people like this. If you dont like it go play Paradox or CiV.

This game was created for a group of wargamers who want an arcadey, "release the balls" tactical and strategic wargame who also like to play with toy onagers??? I guess the hundreds of thousands of downloads for mods that increase the realism factor for Total War games equals the 1%. Oh and by the way, someone agreed with me right above your post. Maybe we're the 2%.

**StephanVos** · June 22, 2013, 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by Miszel

You are the 1%, sorry, this game was created by people like this for people like this. If you dont like it go play Paradox or CiV.

????? seriously! He has a point.....I could tolerate it if the game looked like the promises they made....it doesn't....not even close

**ptoss1** · June 22, 2013, 06:44 PM

Originally Posted by StephanVos

????? seriously! He has a point.....I could tolerate it if the game looked like the promises they made....it doesn't....not even close

What promises?

**StephanVos** · June 22, 2013, 06:59 PM

Originally Posted by ptoss1

What promises?

james Russell: in terms of detail....create a gritty look and feel, have really impactfull animations...human scale drama, etc etc...I just haven't seen much of that, wait a minute....we do have impactfull animations!

**MrOuija** · June 22, 2013, 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by AngryPolack

I absolutley loathe the jokey-jokey presentation by CA. "Release the balls", ridiculous rally points and so on. It's silly and childish. This is a wargame that I was contemplating buying a new pc for and I feel like someones talking to me like I'm an 8 year old when I watch these vids. Really not liking what I see. Holding off preorder and new pc until you guys give some reviews.

I think you have to take the venue into account. This wasn't an exclusive stream to TWC grognards but a live event to a bunch of different people. Will and Craig obviously wanted to be high energy and to get the crowd excited. I think they did a pretty good job.

**AngryPolack** · June 22, 2013, 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by MrOuija

I think you have to take the venue into account. This wasn't an exclusive stream to TWC grognards but a live event to a bunch of different people. Will and Craig obviously wanted to be high energy and to get the crowd excited. I think they did a pretty good job.

To each his own then. I thought the seige of Carthage vid was great. A gritty, serious depiction of thousands of men facing a gruesome demise. I don't believe I'm in the minority wanting the maturity level to be upped a notch ot two. Wasn't just referencing this vid but the last rally point as well.

**Aeneas Veneratio** · June 22, 2013, 03:29 PM

Originally Posted by AngryPolack

I absolutley loathe the jokey-jokey presentation by CA. "Release the balls", ridiculous rally points and so on. It's silly and childish. This is a wargame that I was contemplating buying a new pc for and I feel like someones talking to me like I'm an 8 year old when I watch these vids. Really not liking what I see. Holding off preorder and new pc until you guys give some reviews.

How very Activision of you to dislike fun/jokes and gaming combined... The light-hearted commentaring was to get people excited by the battle, and from listening to the laugther from the crowd, it worked.

**Clock** · June 22, 2013, 03:58 PM

Originally Posted by MrOuija

I think you have to take the venue into account. This wasn't an exclusive stream to TWC grognards but a live event to a bunch of different people. Will and Craig obviously wanted to be high energy and to get the crowd excited. I think they did a pretty good job.

Originally Posted by Aeneas Veneratio

How very Activision of you to dislike fun/jokes and gaming combined... The light-hearted commentaring was to get people excited by the battle, and from listening to the laugther from the crowd, it worked.

Agreed! But this is TWC, largely a collection of joyless, miserable old sods!

**torongill** · June 22, 2013, 04:09 PM

Originally Posted by Clock

Agreed! But this is TWC, largely a collection of joyless, miserable old sods!

I take offense at "old"! I won't be 30 until the 1st of Caesar

**Huberto** · June 22, 2013, 03:59 PM

Originally Posted by AngryPolack

I absolutley loathe the jokey-jokey presentation by CA. "Release the balls", ridiculous rally points and so on. It's silly and childish. This is a wargame that I was contemplating buying a new pc for and I feel like someones talking to me like I'm an 8 year old when I watch these vids. Really not liking what I see. Holding off preorder and new pc until you guys give some reviews.

Going to rep you for this becuse you are spot on.

But there's a real reason they do it imo -- 1.) to communicate to the masses that TW is not some harcore sim but a fun and completely casual game to be enjoyed by anyone; and 2.) for teens especially, to be the 'kool kids' you'd want to emulate (even though you're a nerd!!) and therefore buy the game. I notice they're getting young ladies into the PR act as well, which is definitely cool and aspirational for geeks.

I do wish they'd stop wasting Rally Point time with the 8th grade antics though, drives me nuts. But I'm an old geezer!

**bangell99** · June 22, 2013, 08:52 PM

Originally Posted by AngryPolack

I absolutley loathe the jokey-jokey presentation by CA. "Release the balls", ridiculous rally points and so on. It's silly and childish. This is a wargame that I was contemplating buying a new pc for and I feel like someones talking to me like I'm an 8 year old when I watch these vids. Really not liking what I see. Holding off preorder and new pc until you guys give some reviews.

Agreed. If you're presenting something, jokes are good, but CA's guys are so unfunny and annoying, it's painful.

**Daily** · June 22, 2013, 08:57 PM

Originally Posted by bangell99

Agreed. If you're presenting something, jokes are good, but CA's guys are so unfunny and annoying, it's painful.

Haha the Rally Points are ripe with that kind of awkward humor, I don't mind it that much but I feel they could have toned it down a little.

**RedGuard** · June 22, 2013, 09:04 PM

Originally Posted by Daily

Haha the Rally Points are ripe with that kind of awkward humor, I don't mind it that much but I feel they could have toned it down a little.

its british humor but terrible at that and not funny. WIsh they would face reality and show people what they want to see rather than make stupid ****ing jokes and fail horribly at them

I had hoped that the ******* interviewer at E3 was a wake-up call for them but apparently I was wrong

**Daily** · June 22, 2013, 09:17 PM

Originally Posted by RedGuard

I had hoped that the ******* interviewer at E3 was a wake-up call for them but apparently I was wrong

The interviewer was plain rude.

I think Rezzed for them was a kind of laid back kind of affair. It started last year and it isn't very "official", in my own opinion of course. What bugged me the most was the lack of talking about facts, what, who, when, why and how etc. Other than that I am just glad we are seeing some more gameplay.

**alex_shields** · June 22, 2013, 09:29 PM

Originally Posted by bangell99

Agreed. If you're presenting something, jokes are good, but CA's guys are so unfunny and annoying, it's painful.

They need to decide which they want to present: the gritty, dark, apprehension of war they talked so much about during the first few months after last years Rezzed, or the silly-arcadey "Why so serious" side we've all seen so much of lately.
Actually, we've only heard a little bit about this new, darker Total War, never actually seen it. I'm beginning to think it was a bit too ambitious and they had to drop it except for some new voice overs and animations. Go back and reread what game reviewers said last year at this time if you don't know what I mean. And in the Carthage battle walk through, the lead designer said they were going to have the legions fighting in a "kind of...meat-grinder style".
All that's gone now and the focus (or should I say, "distraction"?) is on silliness and new graphical improvements. I think Sega just kept pushing and pushing and more and more had to be scrapped until what were left with is a game, fresh enough to be new, but shoved through production so quickly that its only a small amount of what CA wanted it to be. It's Shogun 2 with enough new/revised content to be a full priced game.

**RedGuard** · June 22, 2013, 09:32 PM

Originally Posted by alex_shields

They need to decide which they want to present: the gritty, dark, apprehension of war they talked so much about during the first few months after last years Rezzed, or the silly-arcadey "Why so serious" side we've all seen so much of lately.
Actually, we've only heard a little bit about this new, darker Total War, never actually seen it. I'm beginning to think it was a bit too ambitious and they had to drop it except for some new voice overs and animations. Go back and reread what game reviewers said last year at this time if you don't know what I mean. And in the Carthage battle walk through, the lead designer said they were going to have the legions fighting in a "kind of...meat-grinder style".
All that's gone now and the focus (or should I say, "distraction"?) is on silliness and new graphical improvements. I think Sega just kept pushing and pushing and more and more had to be scrapped until what were left with is a game, fresh enough to be new, but shoved through production so quickly that its only a small amount of what CA wanted it to be. It's Shogun 2 with enough new/revised content to be a full priced game.

agreed wholeheartedly. got a feeling CA would have like to work on it till December release but SEGA convinced them to release it in September time frame. We shall see

Elephants.

yeah another thing they promised in the E3 vid but barely showed. once again more bull the interviewer had to get across. doesnt help that the campaign map guy has about as much personality as a lobster

**Marvzilla** · June 22, 2013, 02:44 PM

I liked the presentation mostly, though the battle came off badly. There was no real tactics or anything involved, but elephants, super accurate ballistae and burning balls. They also seem to refrain to show any closer view of melee combat even though I have seen working animations (a legionaire gutting an egyptian soldier). Battles still seem to be a tad to fast. Cavalry charges have changed for the better since the Teutoburg footage. UI and most of the campaign map features come of as bland at the moment but they will be probably polished. Capture points win the battle though the whole egyptian army is about to crush the remaining roman troops, which I think is ridiciulous (in the second video).