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    Default I am a fanboy (not a correlative conjunction), and that's why I care!

    Hopefully most of those absurd animations can be modded out, and the pace can be slowed way, way down. Hopefully the game will still be really cool, though one must assume now that the battle AI, at least, will be just as arcade-like as before.

    I imagine they must have done their research on the young kids who love 300 and Spartacus (the new ones) and who are most likely to shell out the bucks to buy this. But really, aren't we any more sophisticated than this? No wonder so many people doubt the seriousness of global warming and believe in astrology and demonic possession and so on. Apparently the research must have shown CA that most of us really are idiots.

    I don't care what my professors say, I think that Hollywood, Wall Street, Fox News, Hip-Hop, Facebook and Twitter really have made the TV/hippie generation look like a bunch of geniuses by comparison.

    Here's to hopping the modders can invest a little more sanity into something that all Total War fans are so much looking forward to!

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    Default Re: I am a fanboy (not a conjunctive adverb), and that's why I care!

    I am happy with arcade S2 A.I which was easily the best in the series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdogbluesky View Post
    Hopefully most of those absurd animations can be modded out
    Here's to hopping the modders can invest a little more sanity into something that all Total War fans are so much looking forward to!
    I fear not, animations is one of the things that are the most difficult to mod, there are very very few people who are able to mod the animations... Otherwise, I agree, I am a fan too, but doesn't like those crap animations too.

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    Default Re: I am a fanboy (not a conjunctive adverb), and that's why I care!

    Are you guys seriously criticising mo cap animations now? I think its time to go back to Rome Total War animations.

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    This has got to be the most immature and laughable post I have seen this week. Sure, many of the animations look silly and unrealistic, but to cry about everything from global warming to astrology in one thread, while complaining about the animations of a video game in the same breath is absurd.

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    The game's pace is slow enough; people who actually played the game, and aren't speculating, said already that the game is slower than Shogun 2 and it feels just right now.

    All that needs some tweaking is the physics with men flying in the air from Chariots collisions; but honestly, I've been hit by a pickup truck, going 20 mph, and I went flying - a 4 horse chariot probably weighed more than the truck that hit me, and it was going downhill at max speed - not all that unrealistic to be honest. Don't think so? Go out and try it yourself, it's a blast. I don't think the impact from that huge ballista projectile is all that unrealistic because honestly, I've seen men go flying from small explosives.

    Quite honestly, you guys flipping your lids over these issues really need to find another hobby I think, because you're getting way too concerned and stressed over minutia. That's my advice, take it our leave it.

    No wonder so many people doubt the seriousness of global warming and believe in astrology and demonic possession and so on.
    PS just because you haven't lived a full enough life and experienced some of the mysteries in this world, doesn't mean something isn't real or doesn't happen. I work in the mental health field for many years now, and I know the difference between the great variety of mental illnesses and demonic possession - I assure you both are realities.
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    Default Re: I am a fanboy (not a conjunctive adverb), and that's why I care!

    Quote Originally Posted by Steel*Faith View Post
    I work in the mental health field for many years now, and I know the difference between the great variety of mental illnesses and demonic possession - I assure you both are realities.
    It's a relief that I am neither American nor mentally sick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steel*Faith View Post
    All that needs some tweaking is the physics with men flying in the air from Chariots collisions; but honestly, I've been hit by a pickup truck, going 20 mph, and I went flying - a 4 horse chariot probably weighed more than the truck that hit me, and it was going downhill at max speed - not all that unrealistic to be honest. Don't think so? Go out and try it yourself, it's a blast. I don't think the impact from that huge ballista projectile is all that unrealistic because honestly, I've seen men go flying from small explosives.
    Chariots were made of wood and were designed to be as light as possible. Most could be easily carried by a single person over long distances. There is absolutely no way in hell any internal combustion engine vehicle weighs less than a chariot, or even the teams of horses that pulled them. Keep in mind, chariots were invented because the early breeds of domestic horse used in very ancient warfare were too small to carry a single human rider. In battle 2 horse chariots were the norm, not four horse varieties. There is also little evidence to support the idea that chariots were used to deliver massed "shock" attacks to infantry formations. Many historians believe they were used as mobile command platforms for the delivery of reinforcements, the launching of missile weapons, and the execution of hit-and-run attacks. Massive, high speed battering rams they were not.

    Ballistae did not "project" explosive munitions, so any experience about the effects of explosives on the human body is irrelevant to an analysis of what would or wouldn't happen to a person when struck by one [a ballista]. Historically, siege weapons any where near the size depicted in the e3 demo would have been used exclusively for siege operations against masonry and fortifications, assuming any such weapons ever existed at all that is. The idea that something so cartoonishly over-sized and clumsy would be able to load, aim, shoot, and repeat the process against distant and mobile targets (though admittedly large) is a little hard to believe.

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    To Augustas

    Yes, maybe. But on the other hand, to complain about the fact that so many people (Americans) believe that global warming is not extremely exacerbated by human carbon-dioxide emissions, and that so many of us still seem to read our horoscopes on a daily basis is always a good thing. To complain about the idiotic animations in my favorite video game and state that this may be due to the dumbing down of society you may be right about. Just disappointed, that's all. But I still hope for the best. I am a huge fan, after all!

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    Let's put things into perspective here. This game has the best animations in any RTS game to date. Yet you're upset because guys went flying from some powerful collisions... yet you want to down the game's animations, and even want to call it "arcadey" when this game has more depth to it than any previous Total War game to date? Then you want to criticize millions of people around the world because they have a different life experience and belief than you. Do you really think that seems logical or intelligent to you?

    Yea, I'm sure CA is about to see the light now and change the error of their ways, because you, Bigdogbluesky, just smacked some sense into them with your insightful criticisms. Step back for a moment and think about how you're acting mate.
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    To Steel Faith,

    Yes, but global warming is real, and demons are not, and perhaps, millions of people's beliefs respected, we need to emphasize these facts whenever we get the chance, in our efforts to make the world a better place.

    And those animations do suck! And so they lead me to believe that perhaps the AI will continue to suck as well. But I hope not.

    As for the depth, I hope you are right.

    But you all have convinced me that maybe it will all work out okay in the end. I am so looking forward to this game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdogbluesky View Post
    Yes, but global warming is real, and demons are not
    Source?
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    Default Re: I am a fanboy (not a correlative conjunction), and that's why I care!

    To Post Hoc,

    You gotta be kidding me. My concerns about RTW2 aside, this is what I'm talking about about the dumbing down of society. Join the 21st century, man!

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    Default Re: I am a fanboy (not a correlative conjunction), and that's why I care!

    Quote Originally Posted by bigdogbluesky View Post
    To Post Hoc,

    You gotta be kidding me. My concerns about RTW2 aside, this is what I'm talking about about the dumbing down of society. Join the 21st century, man!
    To whit I would reply, wouldn't you be mindlessly following the popular opinion on anthropogenic climate change without checking out the actual science? Who is being dumbed down now, the fool, or the fool who follows him?

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    At least the OP acknowledged that CA is looking to expand its consumer group (300, Spartacus, Gladiator etc etc)........

    Come on, CA is a company after all. They want profit and cannot get it without expanding their consumer groups, they cannot rely on a the "old" fanbase forever.

    However, unlike many other companies CA is making compromises and does not take one side.

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    offtop:The question of global warming isnt "if it real" but who/what, and how causes it. Dont believing in "global warming" is just ignorance.

    I agree with OP that target groups and trying to make this series edible for everyone will make it edible for noon at some point. SEGA will milk out CA and throw it into rubish, just like EA did with many developers with great potential.

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    Default Re: I am a fanboy (not a correlative conjunction), and that's why I care!

    Your logic is flawless.

    What makes you so certain that global warming is caused by man. Was the period right after the ice age caused by humans? The earth has been warming and cooling since the dawn of time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Post Hoc View Post
    Your logic is flawless.

    What makes you so certain that global warming is caused by man. Was the period right after the ice age caused by humans? The earth has been warming and cooling since the dawn of time.
    Yes the Earth have been warming and cooling since the dawn of time, I won't argue with that. On the other hand, man have enhanced the effects and made the process quicker. There will be a new ice age, with or without man, but man makes it come quicker because of global warming.

    Do you really need sources to prove global warming? Just Google it, read your local paper. It's everywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xernoxis View Post
    man makes it come quicker because of global warming.
    Do you see what is wrong with this statement?

    No one as proved its mans fault, they have just proved the earth has been experiencing a warming period, which you cannot deny. There is no scientific evidence that man made CO2 is the main driver of "global warming" either.

    When you assume, you make an ass out of u and me.

    P.S. CO2 is not a pollutant.
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    Default Re: I am a fanboy (not a correlative conjunction), and that's why I care!

    Quote Originally Posted by xernoxis View Post
    Yes the Earth have been warming and cooling since the dawn of time, I won't argue with that. On the other hand, man have enhanced the effects and made the process quicker. There will be a new ice age, with or without man, but man makes it come quicker because of global warming.

    Do you really need sources to prove global warming? Just Google it, read your local paper. It's everywhere.
    Incorrect, whilst earths climate changes, there is no scientific consensus about mans impact on earths climate. All we have is a bunch of alarmist ******** in the media, and some scientists who faked data.
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