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    Default If the number of armies are limited how i am gona defend?

    If the number of armies are limited how i am gonna defend a city , settlement or anything at all while my real armies are away conquering enemy cities? And yes i know that cities will have a garrison station there but we all know those units suck, so i am guessing i will be forced to keep one army only for defending and wasting upkeep on them while they just sit and do nothing?

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    You can recruit garrison units in settlements.
    Aelfwine, then, spoke out and valiantly declared: 'Let us call to mind those declarations we often uttered over mead, when from our seat we heroes in hall would put up pledges about tough fighting; now it can be proved who is brave. I am willing to make my lineage known to all, that I was from a substantial family in Mercia. My grandfather was called Ealhelm, a wise nobleman blessed with worldly wealth. The thanes among that people shall not reproach me for my wanting to get out of this army, to make my way home, now that my lord leader is lying hacked down in battle. To me that is the greatest grief: he was both my kinsman and my lord." Then he moved forward and turned his attention to revenge, so that with his spear he struck a seaman among the army so that he lay dead among the ground, destroyed by his weapon. Then he exhorted his comrades, his friends and companions, that they should advance.

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    The limit will probably be balanced to the degree that you have to prioritize what you want to do, the limit will not cripple you. Also remember that foreign campaigns will not be as easy to execute as in the earlier titles since internal politics can work against you and halt your conquest plans. The great thing about army limits is that we don't have to face off small skirmish forces all the time.

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    Strategy. You'll have pick and choose who you attack and who you defend with. We don't even know much about this change. The number of soldiers you can have might be based on population size.

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    Jack said that is the dilemma we will all face. It's to stop us expanding faster than we should. Jack also said that we must decide how many armies to send forward and how many to keep in defence.

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    By playing smart, maybe?

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    Default Re: If the number of armies are limited how i am gona defend?

    Garrisons will probably be more powerful and upgradable than in the previous games, also, you may not want to use all your armies to attack.

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    Armies can have up to 40 individual units within them, and there is a cap on the number of armies a faction can field at any one time, which is determined by the faction’s ‘Imperium’ power. This Imperium power is directly related with how many provinces you have under your faction. So the larger of an empire you have the more armies you can recruit. Your military capabilities basically increase proportionally to your empires size.

    Edicts are “ongoing”, and the number which can be concurrently enacted at any one time is determined by an ‘Imperium’ rating, which is similar to Shogun 2’s fame system. You faction gets more power to control provinces as their empire expands, but there’s still a tactical choice you have to make, given you have a limited amount of Edicts. A province can also only have one Edict active on it at a time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rezza View Post
    Armies can have up to 40 individual units within them
    Only 20. Was confirmed a long time ago. Only time you can get 40 is if you have another reinforcing you.

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    Default Re: If the number of armies are limited how i am gona defend?

    Quote Originally Posted by Armageddonn View Post
    If the number of armies are limited how i am gonna defend a city , settlement or anything at all while my real armies are away conquering enemy cities? And yes i know that cities will have a garrison station there but we all know those units suck, so i am guessing i will be forced to keep one army only for defending and wasting upkeep on them while they just sit and do nothing?
    At least one army if your faction is a big one. Yes, that will make expansion more difficult, yes it's in many ways accurate.

    One example were the Spartans, who never sent their full Spartiate hoplite force in battle. The largest ever was a bit more than half the army(5 000 total), which went to the battle of Plataea.
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    Default Re: If the number of armies are limited how i am gona defend?

    Well I ask myself the same question, especially since it seems that foreign factions are allowed to walk through my land anytime without military access. So everytime there could be an attack.

    Armies can have up to 40 individual units within them

    Only 20 per army, not 40!

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    Default Re: If the number of armies are limited how i am gona defend?

    I meant 40 units in a battle. Not in an army. It says Armies.

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    ADSedqsad
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    Default Re: If the number of armies are limited how i am gona defend?

    I Think that the limit is the better thing ever announced for Rome II

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherm View Post
    I Think that the limit is the better thing ever announced for Rome II
    I totally agree. In my opinion this feature raises the tactical gameplay on the campaign map to a whole new level. You can't raise a rediculous amount of legions dedicated to conquering new regions. You will always have to make sure your home region is secure while expanding your empire. Thus actually giving thought before making your next move in stead of steamrolling your opponents.

    This can be accompished by two means:
    1. leaving a significant amount of your legions behind to defend your homeland, the expanding will be slow but steadily.
    2. make alliances to guard your back, the expanding will be quicker but at the risk of backstabbing (alliances will be broken etc.).

    The game making or breaking of this feature depends on the AI. Will the AI also guards his back and make or brake alliances accordingly?, and will the internal politics be challanging enough in order for you to allways be aware of the possibility of civil war and destroying your empire? Questions we only can answer after release and untill then it will be all specullation. My guess is that on the first question the answer is yes and on the second is no.

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    Default Re: If the number of armies are limited how i am gona defend?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rezza View Post
    I meant 40 units in a battle. Not in an army. It says Armies.
    LOL? I believe what you meant is: Not in one army, I referred to multiple armies. Right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Petroniu View Post
    LOL? I believe what you meant is: Not in one army, I referred to multiple armies. Right?
    Yea two armies for example.

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    Default Re: If the number of armies are limited how i am gona defend?

    If you use a combined land army and navy will you be allowed to have 40 units(including reinforcements) and a number of ships?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pontic Pontus View Post
    If you use a combined land army and navy will you be allowed to have 40 units(including reinforcements) and a number of ships?
    No, the ships will count towards the 40 units limit. Basically you can control any combination of up to 40 units between land and naval units. The only other restriction being that any single army (and presumably fleet) can only have 20 units within it, so you need at least two of them to get the maximum number of units in battle.

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    so what your saying is sam, when you combine both your navy and your field units, it's possible to have 40 units per army without having reinforcements? we need some verification on that

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