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    Default My thread was closed. Suggestion.

    Hey there, I made a thread recently that got closed. It was closed because it contained a video for a new Youtube series I've started. In the first hour the thread was up, I never received one negative comment and gained some subscribers. The people seemed happy with what I was doing. I was of the mindset that I can post videos as long as I keep it in 1 thread. That's the way it is in the Shogun 2 section of the forums. I read the rules here before I posted and didn't see anything that said I couldn't post a video. I was posting the video here, not just to get views or subs, but to ask people about topics and comments that could be discussed in the video. The thread was closed by StealthFox

    My issue just lies with the fact I wasn't informed why, or what to do in order to post it later on, in the appropriate section. Advertising is not allowed it would seem. It will be impossible for the video series to do any numbers, If I can't even create one thread asking for feedback about what to do in the next one. Basically, I want to know where I can post it looking for help, I understand if that rule is in place it's to keep from having 100's of videos topping the forum and wrecking it, but I think there should be a section where it is permitted, and also that the mods should explain more what's going on. I've been a long time member and never post spam.

    Here is some of the feedback from TWC members:

    Quote Originally Posted by Raikou
    I think its a great idea. Not so much for the people on this forum but more for the new comers who dont really know about this forum,
    Quote Originally Posted by Gugg
    This is a great idea! Kinda like the DestinyUpdates channel. Keep it up. Will be following
    Quote Originally Posted by Sun Jetzu
    Good job, keep up the good work
    Quote Originally Posted by killua
    Great idea and great video ! Even though I'm mostly up to date thanks to the forums I'll still be watching your vids to get some interesting input.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan113112
    I liked the video. Keep up the good work.
    Quote Originally Posted by Switz
    I liked the video. Can tell you guys put a lot of work into it.

    UPDATE
    Well here's the thing, I didn't post this angrily, I didn't do it out of spite or anything. My videos have had crap views for a long time, I really dont mind, I enjoy editing and doing them. The problem is, or was that I could post videos before, I had read the rules, and I felt I was following them again with this new video. Then I actually do a good video, and it gets blocked. There is alot of venom coming out of people in this thread, and Im sorry I didn't mean to enrage anybody. The "Suggestion" part of the title, is that maybe there should be a place where content creators can post their videos, let's plays newscasts or whatever. And also to have a more clear ruleset as several people have mentioned there is an inconsistency with what's allowed and isnt. Thats all.

    I appreciate everyones feedback here, thank you all.
    Last edited by DarrenTotalWar; June 15, 2013 at 08:11 AM.

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    Default Re: My thread was closed. Suggestion.

    Was your thread related to Rome 2?

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    Default Re: My thread was closed. Suggestion.

    Yes, I dont wanna get in trouble for saying too much incase I'm advertising again, but it was for a video series on a weekly Rome News series called Road to Rome. The thread is here.

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    Default Re: My thread was closed. Suggestion.

    I don't think your thread was closed because it contained a youtube video. That's allowed as far as I know. Your thread was closed because it's not allowed to advertise your channel on these forums.
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    Default Re: My thread was closed. Suggestion.

    Isn't promoting a video, basically promoting your channel though? So if I just never mention the channel name it's all ok ?

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    Default Re: My thread was closed. Suggestion.

    posting the video is advertising your channel though :\

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    Default Re: My thread was closed. Suggestion.

    Well I'm not exactly clear on the rules here, because I've seen plenty of people advertise their channel within threads already made without punishment or thread closing. I just don't think it's allowed to make a thread just for advertising your channel. You're going to have to PM Stealthfox or another Moderator and ask.
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    Default Re: My thread was closed. Suggestion.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gugg View Post
    You're going to have to PM Stealthfox or another Moderator and ask.

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    Default Re: My thread was closed. Suggestion.

    So... I can post a video as long as I didn't create it? Clear rules need to be established here. In the Shogun 2 section a mod told me I can post videos I made as long as it was kept to 1 mother thread.

    If I was the mod I wouldve said "hey holyroman, heres what you should do to change your post so it is in keeping with the rules" instead of just locking the damn thing.

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    Default Re: My thread was closed. Suggestion.

    Will do. Thanks guys.

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    Default Re: My thread was closed. Suggestion.

    OP: TWC moderators always explain the reasons for their actions. Read the last post in the thread that was closed and if you have objections then you can raise them to the Tribunal. However, as other already mentioned, then it seems like a perfectly valid reason to close your thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Philip II View Post
    OP: TWC moderators always explain the reasons for their actions.
    Wrong there . I had a VIDEO campaign topic deleted yesterday and on one knows who did it but i think they are looking who and the why as i am.

    Holyroman for what i understood you posted a video on Rome 2 sub-forum ?
    Were you playing Rome 2 ?

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    Default Re: My thread was closed. Suggestion.

    King Philip II, sometimes they actually delete threads. Instead of moving or closing them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyPoopCereal View Post
    King Philip II, sometimes they actually delete threads. Instead of moving or closing them.
    That is true, but then they are garbage threads that belongs in the bin so no need to comment them

    Have you ever received an infraction? They explain clearly why you have received it and link/quote the post. Professional moderation in my opinion - it does not matter if you believe the infraction was deserved or not.

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    Default Re: My thread was closed. Suggestion.

    The reason was given pretty clearly man: you can't advertise your channel on the forum. Just read the closing post made by the moderator.

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    Default Re: My thread was closed. Suggestion.

    Some members are allowed to advertise their channels, while others are not. I've seen it happen a lot of times, the moderator's don't seem to be very consistent when it comes to working against personal advertisement on these forums.
    Really a shame, because the moderator's seem to be doing a good job, just not on this subject.

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    Default Re: My thread was closed. Suggestion.

    in closed thread, Stealthfox said:
    Sorry, but advertising like this is not allowed.

    Closed.

    I believe he will close this thread too.

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    @titular Greve af Gøteborg (Skåne, Halland and Blekinge is Danish lands!): Advertising is against the ToS, so any thread should be closed and the OP should get an infraction for violating the ToS. Just my opinion.

    Edit: I just reported this thread as Noif de B. suggested.

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    Default Re: My thread was closed. Suggestion.

    Quote Originally Posted by King Philip II View Post
    @titular Greve af Gøteborg (Skåne, Halland and Blekinge is Danish lands!): Advertising is against the ToS, so any thread should be closed and the OP should get an infraction for violating the ToS. Just my opinion
    Yes of course, I am against advertising. But moderators have showed tolerance towards certain members (not going to mention any names). Which makes their ruling on this subject inconsistent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greve Af Göteborg View Post
    Yes of course, I am against advertising. But moderators have showed tolerance towards certain members (not going to mention any names). Which makes their ruling on this subject inconsistent.
    You should bring this complaint/accusation up in the right forum - not here. If you're not comfortable posting this complaint, you could PM one of the senior TWC guys. I would recommend Major Darling for this.

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