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    Default Re: will pyrrhus of Epirus be in the game?

    Quote Originally Posted by Raikou View Post
    Well reason I was asking was not to get off topic but my first campaign is going to be Rome and I was curious if I would start out allied with the factions that are histroically correct and if I didn't I was gonna try and ally with them before making my way into Hispania to conquer all of it. Were they really allied with Sparta?
    Yes during the punic wars they were allies
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    Quote Originally Posted by HusKatten View Post
    They should probably start off with good relations with Egypt and maybe some Greek factions like Syracuse. I think that the Greeks and Carthage still had a little fuss about who was the dominant commercial power in the Mediterranean and around Sicily especially, and that the Greeks supported roman aggression towards Carthage. But i don't think Rome had any official allies during this time.
    Egypt sent aid to Epirus so no Rome won't be in good term with Egypt
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    Default Re: will pyrrhus of Epirus be in the game?

    Quote Originally Posted by vietanh797 View Post
    Egypt sent aid to Epirus so no Rome won't be in good term with Egypt
    Macedon also gave him troops, they just wanted to got rid of him in the Eastern Mediterranean Also, the Romans concluded an alliance with the Ptolemaic Empire around this time.

    Also, who said the game starts in 272 BC?
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    Default Re: will pyrrhus of Epirus be in the game?

    I think Pyrrhus will be in the game, before his death at Argos.

    Hint: Epirus controls Thessaly, which they would not own after Pyrrhus' death (the Antigonids would take it).

    Quote Originally Posted by Raikou View Post
    Any idea who Rome's Allies were during the start period of the game anyone?
    RGA is actually correct.

    Carthage would have been the only power allied with Rome at (or near) the startdate, as both were at odds with the various Hellenistic factions in the west (Epirus, Syracuse, etc.).

    Rome's alliance with Pergamon would not come till later.

    Sparta? Frankly I had no idea Rome became allied with Sparta until I read it in the faction description. Sparta was so weak by the Roman invasion of Greece proper that it was really irreverent.

    Quote Originally Posted by HusKatten
    [I think] that the Greeks supported roman aggression towards Carthage. But i don't think Rome had any official allies during this time.
    No, they actually considered supporting Carthage as Syracusan citizens of a certain political persuasion at the time saw the writing on the wall when it came to Roman power. Once Carthage was subdued Rome would get around to capturing Syracuse's corner of Sicily it was believed. Still, Syracuse did not get a chance to act. All Syracuse's anti-Roman partisans managed to do is scare the SPQR at the height of the Second Punic War and bring down an attack upon themselves that the Romans could paint as pre-emptive.
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    Default Re: will pyrrhus of Epirus be in the game?

    Rome's allies? Carthage and the southern Italian cities. By the First Macedonian war,somewhat out of timeline Elis,Sparta,and Aeotilia in Greece.
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    Default Re: will pyrrhus of Epirus be in the game?

    Weren't the Spartans allied with Carthage in the Punic war together with the Macedonians. Or was that just Xanthippos?
    Of course that was a bit later on than the campaign start.

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    Default Re: will pyrrhus of Epirus be in the game?

    I really hope that all the key historical figures make appearances. Playing as Rome around 70 BC, Gaius Julius pops up as a general. Playing as Pontus around 120 BC, Mithridates shows up, etc.

    Probably won't happen though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsully16 View Post
    I really hope that all the key historical figures make appearances. Playing as Rome around 70 BC, Gaius Julius pops up as a general. Playing as Pontus around 120 BC, Mithridates shows up, etc.

    Probably won't happen though.
    Sure it will happen. Even Marcus Anthony is confirmed to be in the game.

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    Default Re: will pyrrhus of Epirus be in the game?

    and rhodos?or is that in a later period?
    i think he will be,is a nice faction to play my guess
    elephants and greek style army between rome and macadonia,
    real challenge 2 get more than a pyyric victory

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    Default Re: will pyrrhus of Epirus be in the game?

    Quote Originally Posted by tungri_centurio View Post
    and rhodos?or is that in a later period?
    i think he will be,is a nice faction to play my guess
    elephants and greek style army between rome and macadonia,
    real challenge 2 get more than a pyyric victory
    Rhodian slingers!

    Well they surendered to rome without a fight.

    They also fought on the side of the romans when the macedonian wars occured
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    What a shame that you have to pre-order a game that looks far from completed to get greek states cultures!!! this is so wrong, it's just terrible.
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    Default Re: will pyrrhus of Epirus be in the game?

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon total war View Post
    What a shame that you have to pre-order a game that looks far from completed to get greek states cultures!!! this is so wrong, it's just terrible.
    You can buy the greek states after release if you wish to do it that way instead.

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    Default Re: will pyrrhus of Epirus be in the game?

    and rhodian navy in support against macadonia,but wheir punished for being bad allys,in later period rhodos whas of no use because rome made delos their new trade hub in greece.

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    Default Re: will pyrrhus of Epirus be in the game?

    Quote Originally Posted by tungri_centurio View Post
    and rhodian navy in support against macadonia,but wheir punished for being bad allys,in later period rhodos whas of no use because rome made delos their new trade hub in greece.
    Yes because rhodes remained neutral in the third macedonian war
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    It seems to me that to pull off a historic recreation of Rome will just be too taxing on my armies and with the army limit I just won't be able to house that many armies without taking other non-hisctorical regions kinda sucks but oh well as long as I have historically correct allies I guess it's okay.
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    Considering the Greek Factions DLC has Epirus, it seems likely that Pyrrhus will appear on the Campaign map. He might even appear in the historical battles section. Don't forget the battle of Asculum and the siege of Sparta being included in the original Rome. CA are definitely familiar with him.

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    Default Re: will pyrrhus of Epirus be in the game?

    Quote Originally Posted by Doe3000 View Post
    Considering the Greek Factions DLC has Epirus, it seems likely that Pyrrhus will appear on the Campaign map. He might even appear in the historical battles section. Don't forget the battle of Asculum and the siege of Sparta being included in the original Rome. CA are definitely familiar with him.
    Battle of beneventum would have been better
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antipater Thrax View Post
    Battle of beneventum would have been better
    Why? That would be a confusing battle scattered over a large tract of land, with the armies divided.
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    Default Re: will pyrrhus of Epirus be in the game?

    One pic show Egypt in 272B.C but the problem is they have more land in that pic than they should have at turn 1
    I think the game start around 278 B.C is a safe bet
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    i thought they confirmed the start date to be 270 B.C.E. that's what i heard, but i have no 100% answer.

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