end turn ctd think i know why

[AncientWarrior]

First post and what a wicked job you guys did with this game, keep it up!!!

But to get to the point my campaign crashs once and a while when i hit the end turn button.As soon as i hit it, it crashs and i think i know why i just dont know how to fix it. It seems to ctd when a revolt is about to happen.
I played as carthage got as far as 220bc or so, crossed the dessert into egypt slaughtered and burnt down Alexandria Memphis and the other two along the river and marched back to carthage to take on Rome and do the same raid with my experienced troops.Egyt took back one of the 4 settlements and memphis and the other one not alexandria both switched back to egytp without a revolt.They had no troops in the towns.When Alexandria had enough of my rule and the time seemed right for a revolt (cause i never kept troops in these settlements), CTD CTD CTD everytime.

I then played as seleucids not even 10 turns, CTD. seleucid lands are known for revolts

BUT what really set it off for me to figure it out was playin as gauls.Secured modern day france and then raided Rome.Grabbed their settlement arriminum,
didn"T leave any troops wanted a revolt and when time came for a revolt CTD CTD

Then when i ran the same campaign Gauls for the 3 time i gave back arriminum to rome as a gift they accepted, no revolt attemt, NO CTD and able to keep playing as long as no one revolts against me

This must be the most iv ever typed on comp.Can anyone help me on this.

P.S. I did see a Gladitorial revolt in syracuse with my carthage campaign,i used lots of spies to keep sicily unstable and time consuming for Rome to rule and a buffer zone. Syracuse was the only to revolt,everyone else was on the braking point but nothin.

[The Walrus]

Do you have patch 1.6? I have you done any modding to the game? Do you have -show err on the end of the line. Make a shortcut of the shortcut you use to play then add -show err to the end like this "BLAHBLAH" -show err. Play and see if it tells you the reason for the CTD.

[AncientWarrior]

Installed platinum 1.6 over fresh copy of RTW and patchs including 1.5,runnin metropolis mod and fix,have the err but still no error message and im not using BI or have any BI files. THX for reply

[The Walrus]

Wait. Did you follow these steps.
1)Install Rome
2) Patch to 1.3 then 1.5(skip if have gold or eras)
3)install RTRPE 1.4 Final Beta(I think 3ddownloads is the only working link)
4)install RTRPE 1.6 patch.

[AncientWarrior]

1. Install Rome Total War
2. Patch to RTW Version 1.2
3. Patch to RTW Version 1.3
4. Patch to RTW Version 1.5
5. Download Rome Total Realism Platinum Edition Full Installer - RTRPE Full (vs 1.4) from one of these 3 links(choose one):
Download and install the RTR Platinum v1.6 Patch.

yes i installed 1.4 first as it says i forgot to mention it

[The Walrus]

You don't need the 1.2 patch but I'm 99.9% sure that is not causing it.

Can you attach your save? Then if I have spare time I'll see if it CTDS on me.
(I will probably have some)

[AncientWarrior]

Dont have the slightest idea on how to attach my save.What folder would the rebellion trigger be in cause im convinced this is the proplem.

[The Walrus]

Nevermind. My posting rules say I'm not aloud to post attachements so I guess you can't either. Hmmmm.....

Florin80 might know but he isn't online right now. Sorry I don't know what to tell
you. Just one more question. Have you deleted map.rwm in some folders?
You can send the file to me by e-mail.

[AncientWarrior]

I know 1.7 should be out soon,hopefully itll copy over whatever error is in the files but its still a problem id like to solve if anybody got an ideas my eyes are open for it

[Marcus Camillus]

I know 1.7 should be out soon,hopefully itll copy over whatever error is in the files but its still a problem id like to solve if anybody got an ideas my eyes are open for it

In your second post though, you mention using the Metropolis Mod and its fix. I'm totally unfamiliar with that mod. I would suggest contacting its creator for help. If you can not find him, perhaps someone who has used the Metropolis Mod can help you.

The RTRPE v1.7 release is going to be for RTRPE, not the Metropolis Mod or any other mod. Any mod that uses RTRPE as its base will need to be made comaptible with the new RTRPE version to be used with it.

I'm sorry, but I'm currently too overwelled with real life issues and handling RTRPE that I do not have time to learn how another mod works.

[The Walrus]

^^^E-mail me the file.

[AncientWarrior]

What file my save? I dont know how

[The Walrus]

PM me your e-mail address. I won't tell anyone it.

[Cheexsta]

So you are getting a CTD every time a settlement revots? That is very strange, I haven't the slightest idea as to what could be causing it. Map.rwm, perhaps?

With regards to uploading a savegame, go to your RTW folder and look in the saves subfolder for your savegame. Use WinZip or something to zip it and make it significantly smaller. Then upload it to a website like Rapidshare or similar and post the link that it generates here.

[King_Azzole]

Interesting! That would explain my second CTD in my Greek campaign... I had conquered a Thracian town and burned it to the ground and simply left it in the "red." It stayed that way for a few turns and the Thracians never reconquered it. Perhaps I am getting that CTD during the turn I am at because that's the turn it rebels... I will do some tests when I get home from work to see if this indeed is the cause of this mysterious CTD. If you sir have found the cause much reputation points to you, and a heavy helping of thanks!

By the way, Windows is giving me the following error report. Are you getting the same when you crash? (Important part in bold)

"C:\DOCUME~1\J\LOCALS~1\Temp\a911_appcompat.txt"

[Sitzkrieg]

I experienced the same problem playing as Rome. I was trying to play somewhat historically but the Gauls kept attacking and wouldn't agree to peace, no matter how much money I tried to give them.

So I finally decided to do a punative raid and raise their cities in northern Italy. Attack, take the city, exterminate the population, destroy all improvements, then abandon the settlement. It's instantly in the "red" for revolt. Had 3 or 4 settlements like this. Figured they would eventually go back to Gaul. After a couple of turns in the red, I got a CTD when I clicked the Turn button. Didn't know why at the time but it looks like I a problem with revolts.

I was playing RTRPE 1.6 on BI with the Extended Realism Mod.

[King_Azzole]

I am wondering if this is solely a player controlled city issue (if it indeed is the problem) or is an AI city can cause this issue as well. It would really stink if the latter were true...

[The Walrus]

Ancient Warrior I believe MnM mod has 2 fixes. Did you download the mod and both fixes.

[AncientWarrior]

thanx all for replys i knew i couldt be the only one with this problem because i checked a lot threads and it seemed common and no one could figure it out.So i signed up to write what i found was causing it. But im self taught with editing the game files, learned a lot from you guys. But i didnt edit any files.

Marcus, yes im aware that 1.7 is for platinum and no other mod and as a man who is inspired by history and military and also political tactics I salute you for your effort in makin this game better and more knowledegable.ITS OFF THE HOOK!!!

KingAzzhole like i wrote no error message and the err is active

Walrus about the fixs i only have one fix because im sure the other was strictly for BI

I can fight rebels,rebel settlements can be conquered no problem, seen gladitorial uprise but no rebellions it ctd when it should happen.AND the map.rwm is deleted, i think the metro fix automatically did that

THE FIGHT CONTINUES!!

[King_Azzole]

thanx all for replys i knew i couldt be the only one with this problem because i checked a lot threads and it seemed common and no one could figure it out.So i signed up to write what i found was causing it. But im self taught with editing the game files, learned a lot from you guys. But i didnt edit any files.

Marcus, yes im aware that 1.7 is for platinum and no other mod and as a man who is inspired by history and military and also political tactics I salute you for your effort in makin this game better and more knowledegable.ITS OFF THE HOOK!!!

KingAzzhole like i wrote no error message and the err is active

Walrus about the fixs i only have one fix because im sure the other was strictly for BI

I can fight rebels,rebel settlements can be conquered no problem, seen gladitorial uprise but no rebellions it ctd when it should happen.AND the map.rwm is deleted, i think the metro fix automatically did that

THE FIGHT CONTINUES!!

Azzole. Please. And welcome to the Total War Center!

Ok now I have to ask you, do you use WindowsXP? Surely when the game crashes to desktop in windows you get a windows error report asking if you want to report the error to microsoft. If you do get this report, click on the tecnical info underscore and see what the cause was. I am curious to know if its the same cause as I reported above.

Secondly, when you load a crashed saved game and stop the city from rebelling does the game resume as normal? Hence do you "fix" the crash by stopping the city from rebelling?