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    Default Why Roman legionaries are from few periods?

    In Cleopatra trailer we can see Romans from 3rd BC (hastati or principes) in attic, montefortino, beotian helmets. But we can see 1st-2nd AD Roman legionaries, too. In Cleopatra scene we see correct soldiers - Cesarian/Augustus era - 1st BC. Why in one battle are few periods? It is impossible that Polybian hastati are in one army with legionaries in lorica segmentata.

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    Because it is a game

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antiochus View Post
    In Cleopatra trailer we can see Romans from 3rd BC (hastati or principes) in attic, montefortino, beotian helmets. But we can see 1st-2nd AD Roman legionaries, too. In Cleopatra scene we see correct soldiers - Cesarian/Augustus era - 1st BC. Why in one battle are few periods? It is impossible that Polybian hastati are in one army with legionaries in lorica segmentata.


    I would be mad if my units automatically upgrade after reforms. While I appreciate historical accuracy, I prefer to have control over my units and when they'll upgrade.

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    hi where are the autism :-DDDD

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    The units were probably chosen based on how recognizable they were to an average guy instead of historical accuracy. It's a trailer for the world - not just for history buffs. Inaccuracies are always found if you look close enough (or in this case if you look at all).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antiochus View Post
    In Cleopatra trailer we can see Romans from 3rd BC (hastati or principes) in attic, montefortino, beotian helmets. But we can see 1st-2nd AD Roman legionaries, too. In Cleopatra scene we see correct soldiers - Cesarian/Augustus era - 1st BC. Why in one battle are few periods? It is impossible that Polybian hastati are in one army with legionaries in lorica segmentata.

    Hmmm, I'm guessing you are referring to the Scene on the boat and with catapults? I guess one could handwave it as plausible the Roman Army in around 30 BC would still have remaing stock of bronze helmets which they would equip some of their men with and since catapult operators would be for behind the lines so they could be issued sub-par helmets (In the same way the U.S Army still issues M16A2 to reserve and non-combatant units). The Naval scene is different since I have no clue about this, but I'm guessing it's the same as above. Basically though I think its just accepting a bit of artistic licence so they don't get yelled at for Romans all looking the same e.c.t. Also note the soldiers are wearing loretica hamata but this doesn't mean they are pre Augustan units the loretica hamata was used along side it at many times.

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    Default Re: Why Roman legionaries are from few periods?

    In Cleopatra trailer we can see Romans from 3rd BC (hastati or principes) in attic, montefortino, beotian helmets. But we can see 1st-2nd AD Roman legionaries, too. In Cleopatra scene we see correct soldiers - Cesarian/Augustus era - 1st BC. Why in one battle are few periods? It is impossible that Polybian hastati are in one army with legionaries in lorica segmentata.
    Please stop nitpicking. Even if it is so and the it is possible to have polybian hastati and legionaries in lorica segmentata this has been possible in the original rome tw and practically all the roman central mods in one form or another. If you don't like the idea I'm sure you will be able to roleplay it so this can't happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antiochus View Post
    In Cleopatra trailer we can see Romans from 3rd BC (hastati or principes) in attic, montefortino, beotian helmets. But we can see 1st-2nd AD Roman legionaries, too. In Cleopatra scene we see correct soldiers - Cesarian/Augustus era - 1st BC. Why in one battle are few periods? It is impossible that Polybian hastati are in one army with legionaries in lorica segmentata.
    You can do whatever you want...
    When youre playing you can sell all of your pre marius units, and train legionars; or you can go on and fight with your hastati and so on...

    maybe you can upgrade your pre marius units to legionars... i think the player has the choise!
    CA said that you can decide to go for the marius reform...

    It´s a game - and it would be bad if suddenly all your armies would have marius legionars...

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    Default Re: Why Roman legionaries are from few periods?

    The battle scene (The Battle of the Nile) had the 1st century legionaries. That's probably just because CA chose those troops when setting up the battle. In the game we will control what we use, of course.

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    This is the last nail in the coffin. I will not pre-order Rome II.


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    Maybe because it is just that, A TRAILER.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antiochus View Post
    In Cleopatra trailer we can see Romans from 3rd BC (hastati or principes) in attic, montefortino, beotian helmets. But we can see 1st-2nd AD Roman legionaries, too. In Cleopatra scene we see correct soldiers - Cesarian/Augustus era - 1st BC. Why in one battle are few periods? It is impossible that Polybian hastati are in one army with legionaries in lorica segmentata.
    You can even see samnite soldiers fighting against romans on the battles and by roman side when managing onagers ... strange ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PROMETHEUS ts View Post
    You can even see samnite soldiers fighting against romans on the battles and by roman side when managing onagers ... strange ...
    Maybe they are just artillery/ship crew placeholders since the respective models aren't made yet? Not Samnites? Keep in mind this ain't a finished game.

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    Default Re: Why Roman legionaries are from few periods?

    You can even see samnite soldiers fighting against romans on the battles and by roman side when managing onagers ... strange ...
    You can see an apparently samnite in the greek culture pack dlc trailer too, it could be a mercenary.


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    Default Re: Why Roman legionaries are from few periods?

    Another thing, what sister did Cleopatra murder? I thought Berenice was dethroned and killed by her father, who was aided by the Romans.
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    Default Re: Why Roman legionaries are from few periods?

    I hope the soldiers guarding Cleopatra are an actual post-Marian, pre-imperial legionary unit, rather than Praetorians or something like that. Given the increased emphasis on historical authenticity this time, it would be odd to go straight from hastati, principes and triarii to soldiers armoured in the Augustan style.


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    Its just version Delta and artistic representation, dont worry everything will be all right.

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    Default Re: Why Roman legionaries are from few periods?

    Maybe the "hastati" are marines with lighter equipment? Have you thought about the fact that maybe they aren't making three different periods for the Roman navy as well?
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