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    Have not found anything on this.

    Will we see the Praetorian Guard in TWR2? If so I wonder how will we get this unit and what flavor as, infantry, Calvary, general only, all? Just wondering...

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    In Republican times the Praetorians served as guards for Praetors, Consuls and Generals in the field, and were not really like the Emperor's Elite of later times. Perhaps they'll serve the same function as the Daimyo's Hatamoto in Shogun II, as an Elite Cavalry guard, or maybe as an infantry cohort such as those used by Octavian at Actium (there were five of them in all) while Antony had three in his Eastern campaigns against Parthia. There isn't much info on Pratorian cavalry forces from the Late republic - here's an illustration of a late first/early second century AD Praetorian Cavalry force:
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    I'm pretty sure they'll appear like they did in Rome 1, with probably the limit elite units have in Empire TW.
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    In Republican times the Praetorians served as guards for Praetors, Consuls and Generals in the field, and were not really like the Emperor's Elite of later times. Perhaps they'll serve the same function as the Daimyo's Hatamoto in Shogun II, as an Elite Cavalry guard, or maybe as an infantry cohort such as those used by Octavian at Actium (there were five of them in all) while Antony had three in his Eastern campaigns against Parthia. There isn't much info on Pratorian cavalry forces from the Late republic - here's an illustration of a late first/early second century AD Praetorian Cavalry force:
    I'm pretty sure they'll appear like they did in Rome 1, with probably the limit elite units have in Empire TW.
    Awesome, I hope to have one or two with my army always like to have them with general and use only if needed at a critical moment. Adds to my fun factor..

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    I love the idea of them, though my imagination runs wild when I hear the name. I think of purple-clad super soldiers or, worse yet, something like these guys:

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    The Praetorians are so well known so i'm sure they are in.

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    I'm assuming they will be a garrison unit in Rome or something like that. A bit like the samurai retainers in Shogun 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreagon View Post
    I'm assuming they will be a garrison unit in Rome or something like that. A bit like the samurai retainers in Shogun 2.
    This is actually a very good idea for them

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    Well historically they guarded the "praetorium" in Republican times, but CA won't be extremist accuracy freaks - odds are that with the Marian Reforms (just like Rome 1) the Praetorian Guard will be recruitable, maybe just in Rome or something.

    PS - DON'T bring those bloody Urban Cohorts in again (or if you do CA, don't make their stats higher than the Praetorians).

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    I honestly dont really care to see them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sun Jetzu View Post
    I honestly dont really care to see them.
    So you want Amazons but not Praetorian Guards? Are you sure you wouldn't rather play Age of Mythology?

    OP, yes they should be (and probably will be) in the game. A cavalry general's bodyguard and an elite infantry unit will be most likely. And like Sharpe said, hopefully only recruited in Rome and/or at a limited capacity.
    When Hiero returned to besiege their base (Messana) in 265 BC the Mamertines called for help from a nearby fleet from Carthage, which occupied the harbor of Messana. Seeing this, the Syracuse forces retired, not wishing to confront Carthaginian forces. Uncomfortable under the Cathaginian "protection," the Mamertines now appealed to Rome to be allowed into the protection of the Roman people. At first, the Romans did not wish to come to the aid of soldiers who had unjustly stolen a city from its rightful possessors. However, unwilling to see Carthaginian power spread further over Sicily and get too close to Italy, Rome responded by entering into an alliance with the Mamertines. In response, Syracuse allied itself with Carthage, imploring their protection. With Rome and Carthage brought into conflict, the Syracuse/Mamertine conflict escalated into the First Punic War.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamertine View Post
    So you want Amazons but not Praetorian Guards? Are you sure you wouldn't rather play Age of Mythology?

    OP, yes they should be (and probably will be) in the game. A cavalry general's bodyguard and an elite infantry unit will be most likely. And like Sharpe said, hopefully only recruited in Rome and/or at a limited capacity.
    Well if you think about it, If I had to choose between Amazon ladies and politically inclined Praetorians, I would choose the former for personal reasons

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    Like other elite units, I would like to see the Praetorian guard have very limited availability but really be able to make a difference on the field.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharpe View Post
    Like other elite units, I would like to see the Praetorian guard have very limited availability but really be able to make a difference on the field.
    Reminds me of the time I used to enjoy holding bridge battles in RTW1 with a full stack of Spartan Hoplites against Elephants.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miles Invictus View Post
    Reminds me of the time I used to enjoy holding bridge battles in RTW1 with a full stack of Spartan Hoplites against Elephants.....
    Okay not that kind of difference. The Spartans in Rome 1 were practically deities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharpe View Post
    Okay not that kind of difference. The Spartans in Rome 1 were practically deities.
    Pfft. Silver Shield Pikemen holding formation had longer reach - simple exploit that crushed a Spartan phalanx.

    Mind you, they did look spectacular in those red dresses....

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    I'm talking more along the lines of taking a wall in a siege and losing 50 men rather than 100 men.

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    We will see them of course I think
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    Default Re: Praetorian Guard

    Perhaps the preatorians will be both the general's bodyguard and a seprate unit later on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by biohazardcake View Post
    Perhaps the preatorians will be both the general's bodyguard and a seprate unit later on.
    Personally, I would rather see the Germanic bodyguards for generals and keep Praetorians in separate cohorts that are able to be deployed in the field, like the empire did later on.
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