Military traditions only for Romans?

[PROMETHEUS ts]

Historically it was like so but in the game ?

Will we have a historical tradition for a barbric army ?
Doesn't sound like making much sense , but will it be like so ?

[NovaCameron]

Supposedly every faction and every army will have tradition. It makes sense if you don't think about it as an individual army having tradition but more like a piece of the collective factional military tradition in physical form.

[Sharpe]

In the name of fairness of course they will have them.

[Sandraker]

Remember:
All modern research on the classical period is ******** and the Romans were better than everyone else at everything ever! We know because their historians were totally telling the truth and not exaggerating anything for political reasons!
Also, anyone who dares suggest that those nasty barbarians were more advanced than is often stereotyped by Hollywood is clearly lying and a nationalist.

Of course barbarians should have military traditions, along with everyone else.

[Augustus Scipius]

Remember:
All modern research on the classical period is ******** and the Romans were better than everyone else at everything ever! We know because their historians were totally telling the truth and not exaggerating anything for political reasons!
Also, anyone who dares suggest that those nasty barbarians were more advanced than is often stereotyped by Hollywood is clearly lying and a nationalist.

Of course barbarians should have military traditions, along with everyone else.

Your post made no sense. He wasn't even saying that the barbarians were somehow lesser beings than the Romans. Besides, he has a point.

Barbarian armies were most often ordinary men who banded together for a short amount of time to perform raids or wage war with each other. They were not professional soldiers who underwent years of training. The armies didn't stay banded together long enough to develop any spirit of companionship or much of a tradition.

But, since this is a video game, the barbarian armies will have traditions too.

[AngryTitusPullo]

Your post made no sense. He wasn't even saying that the barbarians were somehow lesser beings than the Romans. Besides, he has a point.

Barbarian armies were most often ordinary men who banded together for a short amount of time to perform raids or wage war with each other. They were not professional soldiers who underwent years of training. The armies didn't stay banded together long enough to develop any spirit of companionship or much of a tradition.

But, since this is a video game, the barbarian armies will have traditions too.

That is their tradition. Higher income from raids and can be able to quickly muster an army is a part of their tradition.

[Muizer]

Les, that would be a faction tradition, not an army tradition.

[Toho]

every faction gets their own research tree.

[Muizer]

Historically it was like so but in the game ?

Will we have a historical tradition for a barbric army ?
Doesn't sound like making much sense , but will it be like so ?

To be honest, I hope traditions aren't going to be a very pronounced feature for any faction. I mean, it's ok as long as it is a superficial bonus that's nice when you have it, but won't determine where you deploy what army. However, in RP 13 it's mentioned at some point that you would have your special siege army doing your city capturing. That degree of specialisation between armies is, I'm sorry to say, ridiculous.

[Mausolos of Caria]

To be honest, I hope traditions aren't going to be a very pronounced feature for any faction. I mean, it's ok as long as it is a superficial bonus that's nice when you have it, but won't determine where you deploy what army. However, in RP 13 it's mentioned at some point that you would have your special siege army doing your city capturing. That degree of specialisation between armies is, I'm sorry to say, ridiculous.

Agreed. It's fine to have more experienced armies and maybe give an army a bonus when fighting at certain territory- for exampel you recruit a legion in Illyria and they usually fight in Greece, so they get a bonus when fighting in mountainous territory- but that's already the maximum they should do. I don't know, armies are just not persons and they don't keep certain feats forever. Even the best Roman legions where completeley battered in Spain and by Carthage at the start of the Third Punic War because basically all the veterans of the great wars around the Mediterrenean had retired.
I'm sometimes afraid they want to bring in too many role-playing-game elements which might be good for gameplay but bad for realism, but I won't judge before I haven't seen the campaign map.

[Chris Death]

Historically it was like so but in the game ?

Will we have a historical tradition for a barbric army ?
Doesn't sound like making much sense , but will it be like so ?

How can you say it doesn't make much sense when you haven't seen the system
in action yet?

Just because you imagine how it may look like for romans doesn't mean that
you know how it will work out for other cultures + how it will be at all.

~S~ CD

[oOIYvYIOo]

Hellenistic cilivizations and the ones that have suffered some influence should have it .

[Stavroforos]

Well, if we're going with history, I suppose only barbarians should be able to sack Rome and destroy the Roman Empire, so Greeks and Persians keep out!

[Yayattasa]

Maybe playing a barbarian king one of the tribes under your rule could gain such traditions.
Like, you have an army of Boii gallics. After some battles they gain traits like "fearsome", "brave", "siege-breaker", etc...

[♘Top Hat Zebra]

Barbarians shouldn't have standing armies either but they will in the game.

[abuahmed]

All factions had tradition with hardened warriors especially those other than Roman soldiers. Rome adopted many other fighting styles or ways of war from those nations they fought whether those nations were destroyed or not.

[magpie]

Well Prom my friend,
Barbarians would have traditions in say their fighting styles.
Be they spearmen, swordsmen, cavalry,missile troops etc.
They were used to fighting other tribes who employed similar warriors and tactic,s or lack of them.
They probably were at a disadvantage when it came to facing Rome and its disciplined legion fighting style.
Were Rome placed the emphasis on the unit rather than the individual warrior.
The Germans learned from this, So they employed their fighting style where it counted.
Choosing an ambush in an area that denied the legions a chance of fighting in disciplined fighting formations.
They brought the Romans down to a one on one contest which gave the German warriors an advantage.

[PROMETHEUS ts]

Well Prom my friend,
Barbarians would have traditions in say their fighting styles.
Be they spearmen, swordsmen, cavalry,missile troops etc.
They were used to fighting other tribes who employed similar warriors and tactic,s or lack of them.
They probably were at a disadvantage when it came to facing Rome and its disciplined legion fighting style.
Were Rome placed the emphasis on the unit rather than the individual warrior.
The Germans learned from this, So they employed their fighting style where it counted.
Choosing an ambush in an area that denied the legions a chance of fighting in disciplined fighting formations.
They brought the Romans down to a one on one contest which gave the German warriors an advantage.

Thats a way of fighting of the faction , not of an army tradition .
historically there were not army of barbarians with a military tradition that run throught centuries like the Legio X or others that developed over time a perhaps specialization endependantly from the faction .
The barbarian armies were usually made of seasonal rised warbands and disbanded soon after the needs , there were not standing continuous armies with a name , a tradition and a heritage to pass others .

[Greve Af Göteborg]

So if I play a "barbarian" faction I can't use a major feature of the game because of "historical accuracy"? That sucks, sometimes we have to sacrifice historical accuracy to improve gameplay. The Romans were not the only ones that were able to organize armies.

[Sharpe]

So if I play a "barbarian" faction I can't use a major feature of the game because of "historical accuracy"? That sucks, sometimes we have to sacrifice historical accuracy to improve gameplay. The Romans were not the only ones that were able to organize armies.

I would like to be able to mould my barbarian "hordes" into a slick fighting machine.

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