Steam is the RTW2 deal-breaker - here is why

[magpie]

You know what screw it, I might just go elsewhere for Total War news and info. I have had it with this. I write one thing and now everyone hates me for it. I'm done with this.

Relax Remwr, Just persevere and you might get some nice post,s in return.

Temper,s can get frayed when a lot of the debates are in a kind of flux.

regards,

magpie.

[LaLaLand]

You know what screw it, I might just go elsewhere for Total War news and info. I have had it with this. I write one thing and now everyone hates me for it. I'm done with this.

Its not "everyone" Its just a few spiteful individuals that frequent these forums for some reason, best just ignore them. (Or point and laugh, works too)

[Sharpe]

Steam makes me moist.

[empr guy]

I dislike steam because I need to be online to play games, if I don't go from online mode to off line (such as if the internet cuts out while my computer is off) then I can 't play any of my games. Similarly if I do set it to off line and then I'm actually not connected to internet for ~2 weeks, all my games need to "update" before I can play them again.

The other annoying thing is that every now and then I need to re-download all my games due to "format changes", which is a pain in the ass. So overall steam is annoying, unnecessary, and somewhat intrusive, but not so much that it's a deal breaker. The sales are pretty eh since I don't buy many games, but I do enjoy the selection they have, I don't know that paradox games are sold in US stores but I enjoy them immensely.

[AngryTitusPullo]

I dislike steam because I need to be online to play games, if I don't go from online mode to off line (such as if the internet cuts out while my computer is off) then I can 't play any of my games. Similarly if I do set it to off line and then I'm actually not connected to internet for ~2 weeks, all my games need to "update" before I can play them again.

The other annoying thing is that every now and then I need to re-download all my games due to "format changes", which is a pain in the ass. So overall steam is annoying, unnecessary, and somewhat intrusive, but not so much that it's a deal breaker. The sales are pretty eh since I don't buy many games, but I do enjoy the selection they have, I don't know that paradox games are sold in US stores but I enjoy them immensely.

I'm not sure if it affacts other games but my Shogun 2 is still on the version before Otomo clan is released since I have never run Steam online (on my laptop) for more than a year. Maybe it different from games to games I do not know.

[empr guy]

I'm not sure if it affacts other games but my Shogun 2 is still on the version before Otomo clan is released since I have never run Steam online (on my laptop) for more than a year. Maybe it different from games to games I do not know.

I'm not really sure what the issue was, I suspect that steam will go online despite being in off line mode, since that only happened when the was no internet connection at all. I have never had that problem while my laptop has a connection, but I've only been disconnected that long once. (none of the games actually updated once I was reconnected)

[AngryTitusPullo]

I'm not really sure what the issue was, I suspect that steam will go online despite being in off line mode, since that only happened when the was no internet connection at all. I have never had that problem while my laptop has a connection, but I've only been disconnected that long once. (none of the games actually updated once I was reconnected)

I don't know man. Even when I'm online on the laptop when I run Steam I always chooses Offline Mode and never did Steam try to update anything. I can be sure since my laptop version from Steam is different from my desktop which is always online and current.

I only use the laptop when travelling and using prepaid mobile broadband it's costly to run Steam online especially when I know that there are large patches waiting.

[theDaedricPrince]

Sigh. Where are the moderators on these forums? This thread must be closed, along with the other hundred threads that are filled with negativity and rants.

The bottom of the line is, Steam is the main core for CA's revenue. Plus, thousands of people use it due to the fact that they live somewhere in which Rome II cannot be bought; or will take a while to ship to. Therefore, Steam is a must-have and that will not change.

[empr guy]

I don't know man. Even when I'm online on the laptop when I run Steam I always chooses Offline Mode and never did Steam try to update anything. I can be sure since my laptop version from Steam is different from my desktop which is always online and current.

I only use the laptop when travelling and using prepaid mobile broadband it's costly to run Steam online especially when I know that there are large patches waiting.

I'm not sure what you're getting at, when the computer has an internet connection everything is fine, after extended periods with no internet (no browsing, no skype, no what ever) then steam tells me it needs to "update" when it actually doesn't need to and doesn't after reconnecting (but the games become available to play). When I say it does something online while in off line mode, I mean it sends a small signal to check on your games or something, it doesn't download anything.

Sigh. Where are the moderators on these forums? This thread must be closed, along with the other hundred threads that are filled with negativity and rants.

The bottom of the line is, Steam is the main core for CA's revenue. Plus, thousands of people use it due to the fact that they live somewhere in which Rome II cannot be bought; or will take a while to ship to. Therefore, Steam is a must-have and that will not change.

negative threads must be closed? What? Besides, most people say non optional steam is the problem, other games have had steam and non steam versions and done fine, even DLC/update heavy games.

[AngryTitusPullo]

I'm not sure what you're getting at, when the computer has an internet connection everything is fine, after extended periods with no internet (no browsing, no skype, no what ever) then steam tells me it needs to "update" when it actually doesn't need to and doesn't after reconnecting (but the games become available to play). When I say it does something online while in off line mode, I mean it sends a small signal to check on your games or something, it doesn't download anything.

The bold one. Never happened to me. Not sure if this for many other games but certainly never for my Shogun 2 game. I have not turn off online mode for Steam on my lapop for nearly (or more) a year. I can still play Shogun 2 even it's not the latest version/patch.

[empr guy]

The bold one. Never happened to me. Not sure if this for many other games but certainly never for my Shogun 2 game. I have not turn off online mode for Steam on my lapop for nearly (or more) a year. I can still play Shogun 2 even it's not the latest version/patch.

From what i've heard it doesn't happen to everyone and doesn't happen at the same interval of time, which is why it's so confusing to me. Again off line mode works fine for me when my computer has an internet connection, and yes I can play things on previous versions/patches too, the update thing is a lie to force me online.

[karamazovmm]

I recently moved, and misplaced my wireless adapter for my desktop. I therefore had to unhook my desktop and lug everything upstairs so I could hard wire to temporarily connect to steam, all to click on "offline mode" so I could play MY games. I despise steam, and this is a prime example of why...

actually you dont need to connect to enter offline mode

From what i've heard it doesn't happen to everyone and doesn't happen at the same interval of time, which is why it's so confusing to me. Again off line mode works fine for me when my computer has an internet connection, and yes I can play things on previous versions/patches too, the update thing is a lie to force me online.

I also never had this problem, have you tried googling for a solution?

[magpie]

Sigh. Where are the moderators on these forums? This thread must be closed, along with the other hundred threads that are filled with negativity and rants.

The bottom of the line is, Steam is the main core for CA's revenue. Plus, thousands of people use it due to the fact that they live somewhere in which Rome II cannot be bought; or will take a while to ship to. Therefore, Steam is a must-have and that will not change.

Relax, Its bad for your blood pressure getting worked up over a thread in the TWC.
I must say I have had some very useful information on how to use Steam when the time comes from some nice member,s in this thread.

[BroskiDerpman]

This thread is made of fail. Steam is ok, suits my needs, and convinced me to play on pc again too. Well that's just my own opinion... so... um...

[079rtfgkljt90rgio]

The "Game Resale Policy" and the fact you need internet to get your games are, for me, why I dislike Steam and use it as less as possible.

[ISG01]

The "Game Resale Policy" and the fact you need internet to get your games are, for me, why I dislike Steam and use it as less as possible.

You need internet just as much for games outside of Steam to 'activate' them and when was the last time you were able to resell a PC game properly, Steam or no Steam? You can buy a boxed copy, install it from the disc, activate it once and then switch to offline mode. I also still like boxed copies, but Steam is great. Also, it is 2013 and internet is near-ubiquitous in the markets where SEGA/CA make their money. Speeds and connections might be patchy, but Steam does not require you to be online constantly even if you run it outside of offline mode.

Yes, the game resale issue is a valid point of discussion, but to aim it solely at Steam is unfair since it is platform-wide issue. I have games from the early 2000s that I had to 'activate' by putting in a registry code and that happens with or without Steam.

[Dan113112]

This thread would be okay if the OP used correct information. Most of his points are, in my experience, false. I for one love Steam for TW. It has far better MP than other pre-Steam/pre-Warscape TWs. It's also a lot easier to get your game patched.

About reselling PC games. Technically, your not supposed to resell a boxed PC game. You bought it only for yourself and you're not supposed to make copies or lend it to anyone either.

[SleepySteve]

I recently moved, and misplaced my wireless adapter for my desktop. I therefore had to unhook my desktop and lug everything upstairs so I could hard wire to temporarily connect to steam, all to click on "offline mode" so I could play MY games. I despise steam, and this is a prime example of why...

[ISG01]

I recently moved, and misplaced my wireless adapter for my desktop. I therefore had to unhook my desktop and lug everything upstairs so I could hard wire to temporarily connect to steam, all to click on "offline mode" so I could play MY games. I despise steam, and this is a prime example of why...

So now you are blaming losing an implement that you need to use the internet on Steam? All I find in this thread are either baseless accusations, or people messing up and then blaming Steam for their own mistakes. In fact, you managed to fix it by going offline mode, many games require you to be online every time you start them up, so you could also appreciate Steam for being able to play those games while not having internet access, which most forms of DRM and launchers do not allow these days.

Is it really that much to ask people to connect to the internet at least once before they go into offline mode, potentially allowing the game to be played by several people at the same time, which is not what it was meant for.

Yes, Steam is a form of DRM or anti-piracy or whatever you wish to call it, but unlike ANY other form of DRM, nearly all of which are much much worse, Steam actually adds value to the game and the general gaming experience in my opinion.

If your problem with Steam is an issue with internet connections, then your points are moot really, because every PC game, with or without Steam, and that would include a Steamless Total War, would need to have some form of internet access at some point. That has nothing to do with Steam. Steam merely makes the best use of higher speed internet.

[Charsi]

I recently moved, and misplaced my wireless adapter for my desktop. I therefore had to unhook my desktop and lug everything upstairs so I could hard wire to temporarily connect to steam, all to click on "offline mode" so I could play MY games. I despise steam, and this is a prime example of why...

No you didn't.

My router decided to stop authenticating ethernet clients this weekend. When I turned my PC on steam (which loads at startup) said "cannot connect, start in offline mode?". I simply have to hit yes, and i've done this before. As it happens, this time I went downstairs and rebooted the router instead.

You DONT have to connect to the internet in order to go "offline". What hogwash.

And it's not a sales thing on your desktop. It's an icon in your tray and you can control exactly what screen you go to when you click on it. You don't HAVE to go to the store by default, the default landing tab is fully configurable. You have it open your games library, which I do. You can make it so "store" isn't even an option in the tray icon's menu! You can make it not sign into chat/friends. People leveling those kind of criticisms make me think they haven't used it in a while...