Suggestion : Negotiating surrender of much weaker army or besieged garrison

[Dunadd]

How about an option for either side to open negotiations to try and get a surrender negotiated as long as the two sides don't hate one another too much and there's a big difference in numbers and/or quality of troops? In ancient and medieval sieges there was sometimes a negotiated surrender of the garrison on terms if they weren't relieved by their own armies arriving to break the siege by a certain date (could be so many turns in Rome II). Often the deal was that the garrison could leave unharmed either with or without their weapons and with or without handing over hostages.

In the wars of the successors whole units sometimes changed sides and even entire defeated armies sometimes went over to the winner of a battle.

This would also avoid having to fight some of the more one sided battles and assaults and so speed up campaigns.

[Marcus Claudius Marcellus]

Fully backing this idea. Also, if the terms were for the besieged factions army to come and relieve the city by a certain date (which happened historically) it would then make that battle a field battle, rather than a siege battle, tying in with CA's efforts to reduce the number of siege battles. Win/Win in my book.

[xernoxis]

If I understand you correctly, this is already possible in NTW and S2TW, so I bet they will have it in R2TW too.

[Fishdawg]

Fully agree with this idea best example is when Saladin besieged the holy city and the inhabitants paid a fee for safe passage out of the city

[rohirrimelf]

In rtw this was not possible i beleave. You could not ask a diplomat to negotiate with (bribe) a besieged city. I suppose this would not be that hard to put in the game.

[Yayattasa]

In Rome and Medieval 2 you could send a diplomat to the attacking army and offer your city (gift it is better actually). You handle them the control of your city and your troops get out of the siege unharmed. You may end blocked by the sieging army, but if they attack you, you can just retreat.
Don't know if it's possible in Warscape games, tough, mostly because they changed the way diplomacy works.

[Toho]

in shogun 2 when I had a superior army in their lands they would actually give up but the problem is once I leave they attack me again which defeats the whole purpose of having them surrender or agreeing to a ceasefire.

[Aymer de Valence]

Isn't this already in a few Total War games??

[Tim_Ward]

Yeah, isn't this in one Total War game? With the caveat that it would be refused, flat out, every. single. time. and in all circumstances, meaning they might as well have not bothered to include it in the first place?

[CheesyFreak]

yes this is already done in Napoleon or Empire one of those two i dont remember, but yeah i would love to see it back

[Doe3000]

I would love the option to ask a tiny defeated army to surrender. I once spent three turns chasing about 20 soldiers of one broken unit across the map after having defeated the main army in battle - it's annoying, silly, and pointless. It'd be much easier to get them to surrender. Perhaps you could bribe them to dos so with some cash.

[Zhao Jun]

I completely agree with this idea.
It is useless to have five rebel units holding a castle being besieged by my full stack army. It just wastes valuable turns that could be spent sending that army to an enemies castle and winning that. It also picked away at my numbers slightly. It always happened to me in Medieval II, and most of the time it gave France enough time to build up another army.
If we could have them surrender, it would not only be more realistic but also more convenient.

[Dreagon]

I hope that in civil wars the survivors of a battle have the opportunity to join your forces.

[Historyaswas]

I like this idea it reminds me of Napoleon when you surrender a city but that also worries me because then the AI would attack me with the same army right after

[Thunderbolt II]

Good idea.