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    Dude, I respect your passion for the Gallaeci, and I'd like very much to have some Iberian factions in the game, but you seem to mention them in every post you make..

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    Quote Originally Posted by LemonySniffit View Post
    Dude, I respect your passion for the Gallaeci, and I'd like very much to have some Iberian factions in the game, but you seem to mention them in every post you make..
    yeah seems like i do hahaha,this may sound a bit arrogant but i think thats only natural, people tend to try to shift conversations on things they know, and generally i know more on Gallaeci and people know more about Romans,Seleucids,Arverni so i try to shift it that way, sorry if i am annoying or if i am (unknownly) insulting someone behaving live this, just give me a call and i will try to change if it is like i say.

    BTW, thanks for posting

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    i found some more info for those interested, this goes about their religion.

    The religious pantheon was extensive, and included local and pan-Celtic gods. Among the later ones the most relevant was Lugus;[44] 5 inscriptions[45] are known with dedication to this deity, whose name is frequently expressed as a plural dative (LUGUBO, LUCOUBU). The votive altars containing this dedications frequently present three holes for gifts or sacrifices. Other pan-European deities include Bormanicus (a god related to hot springs), the Matres,[46] and Sulis or Suleviae (SULEIS NANTUGAICIS).[47]
    More numerous are the votive inscriptions dedicated to the autochthonous Cosus, Bandua, Nabia, and Reue. Hundreds of Latin inscriptions have survived with dedications to gods and goddesses. Archaeological finds such as ceremonial axes decorated with animal sacrificial scenes, together with the severed head sculptures and the testimonies of classical authors, confirms the ceremonial sacrifice of animals, probably including humans, as among Lusitanians and Gauls.
    The largest number of indigenous deities found in the whole Iberian Peninsula are located in the Lusitanian-Galician regions, and models proposing a fragmented and disorganized pantheon have been discarded, since the number of deities occurring together is similar to other Celtic peoples in Europe and ancient civilizations.
    Cosus, a male deity, was worshipped in the coastal areas where the Celtici dwelt, from the region around Aveiro and Porto to Northern Galicia, but seldom inland, with the exception of the El Bierzo region in Leon, where this cult has been attributed[48] to the known arrival of Galician miners, most notably from among the Celtici Supertamarici. This deity has not been recorded in the same areas as Bandua, Reue and Nabia deities occur, and El Bierzo follows the same pattern as in the coast. From a theonymical point of view, this suggest some ethno-cultural differences between the coast and inland areas. With the exception of the Grovii people, Pomponius Mela stated that all the populi were Celtic and Cosus was not worshipped there. Pliny also rejected that the Grovii were Celtic, he considered them to have a Greek origin.
    Bandua is closely associated with Roman Mars and less frequently worshipped by women. The religious nature of Cosus had many similarities with that of Bandua. Bandua had a warlike character and a defender of local communities. The worship of these two gods do not overlap but rather complement each other, occupying practically the whole of the western territory of the Iberian Peninsula. Supporting the idea, no evidence has been found of any women worshipping at any of the monuments dedicated to Cosus. Cosus sites are found near settlements, such as in Sanfins and the settlement near A Coruņa.
    Nabia had double invocation, one male and one female. The supreme Nabia is related to Jupiter and another incarnation of the deity, identified with Diana, Juno or Victoria or others from the Roman pantheon, linked to the protection and defence of the community or health, wealth and fertility. Bandua, Reue, Arentius-Arentia, Quangeius, Munidis, Trebaruna,Laneana, and Nabia worshipped in the heart of Lusitania vanishes almost completely outside the boundary with the Vettones.
    Bandua, Reue and Nabia were worshipped in the core area of Lusitania (including Northern Extremadura to Beira Baixa and Northern Lusitania) and reaching inland Galicia, the diffusion of these gods throughout the whole of the northern interior area shows a cultural continuity with Central Lusitania.
    Funerary rites are mostly unknown except at few places, such as Cividade de Terroso, where cremation was practised.

    some gods and what they represented:
    Lug: God of the Sun and the Dead
    Bormanico: god of hot springs
    Sannoava:goddess of fountains

    i also found some more pictures that migth be interesting.

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    Yes, that would indeed be a good idea with different horses. The Parthians would get access to arguably the best horses from Media then, once they conquer it, while the Romans have to rely on more ''average'' horses and tribes like the Gallaeci can use ponies. Also, nice new info, so they had their completely own gods? Or can those be identified with other names of Celtic gods?
    "Pompeius, after having finished the war against Mithridates, when he went to call at the house of Poseidonios, the famous teacher of philosophy, forbade the lictor to knock at the door, as was the usual custom, and he, to whom both the eastern and the western world had yielded submission, ordered the fasces to be lowered before the door of science."

    Pliny the Elder, Naturalis Historia, 7, 112

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    I've read about the Gallaeci tribe briefly before, and after your very informative post CheesyFreak, I hope we see them in-game in some fashion.

    EDIT: Although I have to say, on further research I hope the Cantabri are in there somewhere too. They seem hard as nails.
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    the site is having problems again for me............

    @Mausolos

    i think they had some deities that where of their own, but some gods i saw they worshipped where also worshipped by other celts, like lugus http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lugus
    as you see they found one interpretation of him in Paris so its possible it was a widely worshipped god as it was a very important one(of the sun and the dead no least) but over the general i think they where the same as alot of celtic tribes, they had some gods of their own but all worshipped the most important ones.

    @ Marcus Claudius Marcellus

    yeah the cantabrians where tough as nuts, but so was the whole northen peninsula and the reason the north (Gallaeci,Astures,Cantabrians and Vascones) where able to hold so long against the well oiled roman war machine was because of ambushes in the rough mountain terrain

    and its your choice wich tribe you would love to have in iberia, as i said i dont have much hopes of it to appear as a playable faction in rome 2, i can dream but dreaming is diferent then reality
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    Quote Originally Posted by CheesyFreak View Post
    yeah the Cantabrians where tough as nuts, but so was the whole northern peninsula and the reason the north (Gallaeci, Astures, Cantabrians and Vascones) where able to hold so long against the well oiled Roman war machine was because of ambushes in the rough mountain terrain. And its your choice which tribe you would love to have in Iberia, as i said i don't have much hopes of it to appear as a playable faction in Rome 2, i can dream but dreaming is different then reality

    God I can't wait to replicate these tactics in game. I kind of shied away from the more tribal/barbarian factions in Rome, always thought it was kind of unrealistic for a single tribe to unit an entire country, but I'll be damned if I'm not excited to play them in Rome II.

    And hey, you never know, CA will probably do an Iberian faction pack!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcus Claudius Marcellus View Post
    God I can't wait to replicate these tactics in game. I kind of shied away from the more tribal/barbarian factions in Rome, always thought it was kind of unrealistic for a single tribe to unit an entire country, but I'll be damned if I'm not excited to play them in Rome II.

    And hey, you never know, CA will probably do an Iberian faction pack!
    well rome pulled it off so why not other tribes

    and i think i am gona play them all, i just love every faction until now, so much diversity, so much different ways, i always enjoyed playing both "barbarians" and "civilized" factions.

    and yeah iberian dlc would be nuts, but if the culture pack is limited to 3 factions its gona be hard, because i am sure 2 factions have definetly a spot,Lusitani and Arevacos(celtiberians) but hey as i said, anything is possible , the best would be if every faction was playable so many people would be happy

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    Quote Originally Posted by CheesyFreak View Post
    I think i am gonna play them all, i just love every faction until now, so much diversity, so much different ways, i always enjoyed playing both "barbarians" and "civilized" factions.

    and yeah Iberian DLC would be nuts, but if the culture pack is limited to 3 factions its gonna be hard, because i am sure 2 factions have definitely a spot, Lusitani and Arevacos (celtiberians) but hey as i said, anything is possible , the best would be if every faction was playable so many people would be happy
    Fully agreed. I don't think I'd ever leave my PC if they made all factions playable, with in-depth rosters and political systems. The possibilities....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcus Claudius Marcellus View Post
    Fully agreed. I don't think I'd ever leave my PC if they made all factions playable, with in-depth rosters and political systems. The possibilities....
    with a bit of luck this will be possible thanks to modding.

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    Castros should definitely be an architectural type. It would be nice if one was featured as a unique city.

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