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    Default DLC should be free unless its a expansion pack.

    I'm fed up with all the DLC that you have to pay for these days.
    There use to be a time where DLC were free and just updates now you even have to pay for new units which is a joke.
    I think Rome 2 and other games should only charge there fans and people who have bought the game for big expansion packs like the old days
    of barbarian invasion and alex.
    Not to just unlock a faction, units or blood like in shogun 2

    For a game that costs £44 which is a lot of money dlc should be free unless its something big then i do not mind paying for.

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    Default Re: DLC should be free unless its a expansion pack.

    CA is just following a trend here ...

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    Default Re: DLC should be free unless its a expansion pack.

    I agree with OP. Faction or unit DLCs must be free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcathius of Pontus View Post
    I agree with OP. Faction or unit DLCs must be free.
    I'm not saying they should charge for it, I'm just saying they're following a trend ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcathius of Pontus View Post
    I agree with OP. Faction or unit DLCs must be free.
    Why? What's wrong with the idea of someone charging for their work? Or do we have a fundamental human right to free DLCs now?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tomyris View Post
    do we have a fundamental human right to free DLCs now?
    That's what it sounds like, every time there's a dlc, people go on like drama queens, complaining about the fact that they have to pay for stuff.

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    Its not a trend its called ripping gamers of to make more money that's why everyone is doing it and limiting us to mod games so that we are forced to buy the dlc if we want some changes to the game.

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    Or don't buy them to send a massage! And why do people still expect to get something for free? For why should they not be payed for their work? If you have a house built by a carpenter. And you need a new bedroom should the carpenter not be paid? Or should he just do it for free. because its just more content to the already built house?

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    Quote Originally Posted by VarrKhaitan View Post
    Or don't buy them to send a massage! And why do people still expect to get something for free? For why should they not be payed for their work? If you have a house built by a carpenter. And you need a new bedroom should the carpenter not be paid? Or should he just do it for free. because its just more content to the already built house?
    It should come with the original game already take this The Greek States Culture Pack it will all-ready be made when the game is out.
    But if you do not pre order the game then you will have to pay to get this dlc so your telling me that we should pay for something that can be and is originally all-ready in the game?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheNewKing View Post
    It should come with the original game already take this The Greek States Culture Pack it will all-ready be made when the game is out.
    But if you do not pre order the game then you will have to pay to get this dlc so your telling me that we should pay for something that can be and is originally all-ready in the game?
    The Greek states pack is a pre-order bonus incentive, another sound business tactic to improve sales. If you don't pre-order it (usually at a lower price) then you can have no complaints if you want these factions when the game comes out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VarrKhaitan View Post
    Or don't buy them to send a massage! And why do people still expect to get something for free? For why should they not be payed for their work? If you have a house built by a carpenter. And you need a new bedroom should the carpenter not be paid? Or should he just do it for free. because its just more content to the already built house?
    Oh, I will buy that house, but I expect to get the gazebo for free. Who cares if they worked overtime for it? They don't need to be paid for that! I am entitled to it, hell I bought the house! It sure does make my garden look better than my pesky neighbor's!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    Oh, I will buy that house, but I expect to get the gazebo for free. Who cares if they worked overtime for it? They don't need to be paid for that! I am entitled to it, hell I bought the house! It sure does make my garden look better than my pesky neighbor's!
    so pathetic you are its not like that at all.

    Its more like buying a house outright with a gazebo, then after you move in the estate agents comes round and says by the way you need to pay another £20 k to have the key to the gazebo so you can unlock it.

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    Default Re: DLC should be free unless its a expansion pack.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNewKing View Post
    so pathetic you are its not like that at all.

    Its more like buying a house outright with a gazebo, then after you move in the estate agents comes round and says by the way you need to pay another £20 k to have the key to the gazebo so you can unlock it.
    Uhhhh no? That would make sense if they had a Greek Cities trailer and then told you you had to pay for after you bought it. Its just a bonus for pre-ordering anyways. I don't understand why people are so against DLC anyways. The company spent the time making it and its their right to sell it. Were not entitled to anything either. None of the DLC civs were mentioned as the original 8 so its not like CA is reneging on their promises.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheNewKing View Post
    so pathetic you are its not like that at all.

    Its more like buying a house outright with a gazebo, then after you move in the estate agents comes round and says by the way you need to pay another £20 k to have the key to the gazebo so you can unlock it.
    No, it's more like paying for the house being built, but the construction company also builds gazebos. I can pay extra to have the gazebo installed into my yard while my house is still being built. So that I will have it included, or I can just choose not to have it. Though, I know that gazebo should have been in my yard in the first place, so I really don't see the justification in charging me for it, that is just robbery!

    They have a team working on the main game, the game is complete. Just because they have extra teams on the side working on other projects (DLC) while the main game is being finished does NOT make the game incomplete.
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    Default Re: DLC should be free unless its a expansion pack.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNewKing View Post
    so pathetic you are its not like that at all.

    Its more like buying a house outright with a gazebo, then after you move in the estate agents comes round and says by the way you need to pay another £20 k to have the key to the gazebo so you can unlock it.
    Yes the preorder bonus. But I thought we were talking about all kinda of dlc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VarrKhaitan View Post
    Yes the preorder bonus. But I thought we were talking about all kinda of dlc.
    The pre-order bonus for Rome II and the "Free-LC" are NOT cut from the original game. Common misconception it seems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheNewKing View Post
    so pathetic you are its not like that at all.

    Its more like buying a house outright with a gazebo, then after you move in the estate agents comes round and says by the way you need to pay another £20 k to have the key to the gazebo so you can unlock it.

    How is it like that at all? CA have clearly said what you are buying. 9 Factions. If you want more you have to pay, or pre-order. You're not buying the Gazebo, it was never part of the original sale. When you buy a house you often pay extra for fixtures and fittings (curtains, carpet, lights, sheds, appliances), however unlike houses games will soon be discounted so simply wait until you can get all the content at a price you are willing to pay. What’s so hard about that?


    CA make and sell a product. They decide what that product is and they are under no obligation to include everything they have worked on up to release date. Obviously it makes good business sense for them to make the product offer as much value for money as possible.


    Where the hell does this sense of entitlement come from? It beggars belief. Using your analogy when I buy a house everything in it should be mine. That Porsche on the drive. Mine. That 50 inch plasma. Mine. Alienware laptop. Mine. Kindle. Mine. I-phone 5. Mine. I-Pod. Mine. That Ming vase. Mine. Those 3 Vincent van Gogh on the wall. Mine. Those Fabergé eggs. Mine. That copy of the Gutenberg Bible. Mine. That bottle of 1787 Lafitte Th. J. Mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFra View Post
    Where the hell does this sense of entitlement come from? It beggars belief.
    I'm seeing a lot of it around lately.


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    Quote Originally Posted by VarrKhaitan View Post
    Or don't buy them to send a massage! And why do people still expect to get something for free? For why should they not be payed for their work? If you have a house built by a carpenter. And you need a new bedroom should the carpenter not be paid? Or should he just do it for free. because its just more content to the already built house?
    No issue with people being paid for their work, however being paid more than once for the same work i do have issue with, we are not talking about extra work here we are talking about content within the game itself being deliberately locked out unless you pay extra to unlock it, now if Sega lowered the price of the game to compensate for locking content then i would say okay but they don't, £45 is being charged on steam therefore they are charging the same/more for less, that isn't acceptable in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derbiean View Post
    No issue with people being paid for their work, however being paid more than once for the same work i do have issue with, we are not talking about extra work here we are talking about content within the game itself being deliberately locked out unless you pay extra to unlock it, now if Sega lowered the price of the game to compensate for locking content then i would say okay but they don't, £45 is being charged on steam therefore they are charging the same/more for less, that isn't acceptable in my opinion.
    Thanks this is exactly what i mean and i 100% agree with you.

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