When will we see phalanxes?

**cenkiss** · May 19, 2013, 02:16 PM

When will developers show us some phalanx warfare and how it works in the new engine? I really wonder how phalanxes will work this time. Will they just stick their pointy heads,will we see some phalanx push,etc...

**legate** · May 19, 2013, 02:35 PM

I'm hoping to see proper phalanx warfare in action, and not the stand still and jab stuff we seen in Rome 1, but we will see.

**HinFoo** · May 19, 2013, 02:36 PM

as a preemptive manouver they removed the phalanxes from the game since they couldnt make all the details correct.

**Sun Jetzu** · May 20, 2013, 04:59 PM

i try to imagine how it will be like, because in rome it was a bit cartoony pitting phalanxes against each other.

**~~oOIYvYIOo~~** · May 20, 2013, 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by cenkiss

When will developers show us some phalanx warfare and how it works in the new engine? I really wonder how phalanxes will work this time. Will they just stick their pointy heads,will we see some phalanx push,etc...

It will probably work as it worked with Rome 1 as it was perfect.

**Sun Jetzu** · May 20, 2013, 05:04 PM

Originally Posted by oOIYvYIOo

It will probably work as it worked with Rome 1 as it was perfect.

I hope with better animations lol

**~~oOIYvYIOo~~** · May 20, 2013, 05:10 PM

Originally Posted by Sun Jetzu

I hope with better animations lol

That is guaranteed im sure

,rep coming

**Jedi** · May 20, 2013, 05:28 PM

Well they at least told us the phalanx will have historically accurate 23 foot long pikes which is brilliant.

The only thing left is the default unit formation and the side arms.Side arms are crucial as like Rome I and medieval the phalanx loses a lot of its killing power due to men dropping the pike in favour of the sword.Hell the Scottish pikemen in Kingdoms sucked big time.They always become swordsmen over pikemen and get taken apart by units they would maul.

I removed it pretty easy in the file so pikemen do not use or have a sidearm and it works perfect.It will suck if multiplayer has default sidearms as you will not be able to go online unless we come up with some offical phalanx mod the whole community uses.

**Sun Jetzu** · May 20, 2013, 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by Jedi

Well they at least told us the phalanx will have historically accurate 23 foot long pikes which is brilliant.

I was just talking about this on my other thread, they said that theyre will be Sarrissa phalanx and hoplite phalanx.

**c.ryo** · May 20, 2013, 05:36 PM

how it works in the new engine

excuse me? new engine? it's the same engine that we saw in ETW.

**jsully16** · May 20, 2013, 05:51 PM

Originally Posted by c.ryo

excuse me? new engine? it's the same engine that we saw in ETW.

Which factions used a phalanx in ETW?

I expect great things in this regard. Most of the playable factions use the phalanx formation, so CA would be foolish to not make sure it's heavily polished.

**Anna_Gein** · May 21, 2013, 09:44 AM

Originally Posted by jsully16

Which factions used a phalanx in ETW?

I expect great things in this regard. Most of the playable factions use the phalanx formation, so CA would be foolish to not make sure it's heavily polished.

Most faction had access to pikemen unit in ETW. These units were described as fighting like Alexander's soldiers.

**LewisVee** · May 20, 2013, 06:07 PM

I wanna see some shield bashing then stab!

**Sun Jetzu** · May 20, 2013, 06:23 PM

in empire it was the pike guys with the hats, the crappy units you get in eevry game at the begning.

**jamreal18** · May 20, 2013, 08:57 PM

Yeah, i want to phalanx in action.... Cataphracts as well.....

**SturmChurro** · May 21, 2013, 02:04 AM

Hey we had long yari spear wall in SHOGUN 2!

Can't wait to see and use a proper phalanx in action in Rome 2, though.

Oda (almost) phalanx!

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

Yes, I am very bored...

**Gugg** · May 21, 2013, 02:09 AM

Anyone know if there's going to be any hoplite variations in the game where they hold their spears over their sheilds instead of beside it? Kinda hoping to see that.

**Sun Jetzu** · May 21, 2013, 09:23 AM

Originally Posted by Gugg

Anyone know if there's going to be any hoplite variations in the game where they hold their spears over their shields instead of beside it? Kinda hoping to see that.

I think those are Hoplite Phalanx, they use the dori. The one with the larger spear that holds it at its side is the sarrissa.

**Sar1n** · May 21, 2013, 09:41 AM

We've seen three screenies of hoplites so far-Macedonian Hypaspitai, Carthaginian Sacred Band, and Spartan hoplites. It's interesting that we see three different formations there. Sacred Band is apparently in defensive, tight formation, maximizing their shield protection and holding spears over the shields. Hypaspitai appear to be in process of forming a classical shield wall, while spartans fight in loose melee.

Pike (sarissa) phalanx appeared only on one screenie, Egyptian machimoi phalanx. Completely different animation is apparent.