Predating the starting age ...

[PROMETHEUS ts]

I personally think that predating the starting age of the game would be much more interesting....

In 270 Rome controls all of Italy but just a few years befoure Taras ( spartan colony ) would still be free ,
Etruscans and gauls allied faced Romans still , and yet we would see factions like samnites , umbrians , ereuscans , boii , taras , Neapolis and syracuse...

I would make the starting age in 298 Bc during the start of the third Samnitic war.

The presence of Samnites also would give presence to an alternative to Rome in the very same Peninsula , it took 3 wars and almoust 100 years to defeat the Samnits to Rome.

[musketeer101]

I think CA want to make the campaign open-ended, so you can make your own history. If you started off in the middle of a large war, your options are limited. If you start off during a time of relative peace, you can either start war earlier, or prevent it altogether.

[PROMETHEUS ts]

But u start already at war with Carthage .

[Sharpe]

But u start already at war with Carthage .

Straight into the action!

[Emperor Domitianus]

But u start already at war with Carthage .

Well you can also arrange an agreement with them to make peace.

[SpecialPH]

Well you can also arrange an agreement with them to make peace.

My thoughts exactly. Rome isn't bordering Carthage at the start of the game directly (still don't have foothold in Sicily) so you could make peace with them if you want to ...

[Eofor]

But u start already at war with Carthage .

Sauce plz.

[TheFra]

But u start already at war with Carthage .

Has that been confirmed? The description isn't clear, sounds like it could be on the eve of the first Punic war.

"Since the 6th century BC, Carthage has enjoyed a commercial treaty with Rome. The nations even fought together during the Pyrrhic War, although this was a marriage of convenience to prevent Greek hegemony of Southern Italy and Sicily. The outcome of that war was perhaps better for Rome; Carthage gained a foothold in Sicily, but Rome achieved dominance over much of the Italian peninsula. Now, tensions run high between these mighty nations…."

[Jokern]

Has that been confirmed? The description isn't clear, sounds like it could be on the eve of the first Punic war.

"Since the 6th century BC, Carthage has enjoyed a commercial treaty with Rome. The nations even fought together during the Pyrrhic War, although this was a marriage of convenience to prevent Greek hegemony of Southern Italy and Sicily. The outcome of that war was perhaps better for Rome; Carthage gained a foothold in Sicily, but Rome achieved dominance over much of the Italian peninsula. Now, tensions run high between these mighty nations…."

That gives us a good decade where we can find the starting date. From the sound of it implies that the Pyrrhic War has ended and the First Punic will soon erupt. That gives us somewhere between 275-264 BC. My guess is right in the middle, 270 BC.

Does anyone know of any major events between the Pyrrhic War and the First Punic?

[Lord Tomyris]

That gives us a good decade where we can find the starting date. From the sound of it implies that the Pyrrhic War has ended and the First Punic will soon erupt. That gives us somewhere between 275-264 BC. My guess is right in the middle, 270 BC.

Does anyone know of any major events between the Pyrrhic War and the First Punic?

If it's 275, Epirus gets Pyrrhus. If it's 270, he's gone.

[TheFra]

If it's 275, Epirus gets Pyrrhus. If it's 270, he's gone.

Lets hope for 275, would be great to have him in.

[Woodrow Skillson]

If it's 275, Epirus gets Pyrrhus. If it's 270, he's gone.

They could always just alt history it and say that tile did not kill him and he has been chilling at home for 2 years.

[Eofor]

Does anyone know of any major events between the Pyrrhic War and the First Punic?

There was the three-way war between Carthage, Syracuse and the Mamertines in Sicily and a revolt by Campanian troops who seized Rhegium.

[flippingdesks]

But u start already at war with Carthage .

So we're making up things now? Coolio

[Emperor Domitianus]

The problem is that if they had made so, on one side this would have had a positive effects on the details and faction avaible (like for Greece) but would also had forced them to add more minor factions around. I agree with you that the presence of Samnites and the other smaller factions would have been awsome and better but I don't know for the rest. In the end from what we can see from the artistic representations, there is space for Ethruscans, Syracusae, the Gauls of North Italy and still a chance for emerging factions in Southern Italy. As there is Beneventum, there is a chance to introduce the samnites as an emerging faction if the territory fall.

[King Yngvar]

Personally I would prefer an even bigger Rome. Starting after the second punic war.

[Toho]

hopefully the tutorial campaign would be the real early days of rome.

[LaLaLand]

Turn 10 280 AD:

MAJOR NATION DEFEATED! These people have been overcome by and will fade away into the footnotes of history!

The Roman Republic.

[Boicote]

Since Epirus is a playable faction, the campaign should start during the Pyrrhic wars, with Epirus controlling (directly or indirectly) the south of Italy.

[Eofor]

Can someone please tell me what official info says that Rome and Carthage will start off at war with each other? Because all I've got is the faction descriptions on the wiki, which say that there are tensions between Rome and Carthage which could very well be represented by a -20 to diplomacy.